F Body intercooled twin turbo system - preliminary pricing $5495 inc free delvery
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Originally Posted by Brains
Keep us posted on the 65lb. wheels. I'm assuming the cover will need to be machined to match? Is this something we can have done on an exchange basis later on?
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The way the turbos and housings are made its not going to be very good if you want to go to the bigger ones. With normal turbos like sts ,etc you would just simply unbolt your turbo with like 4 bolts and a couple of lines and sell it to the next guy. But with these custom housings its not like the average guy could use them very easily. I still wonder if a standard gasket can be used on the turbo to exhaust manifold end and if so what size gasket like t3 or whatever? I am still not 100% thrilled with using rtv.
There are compromises made on every design of course. And some advantages. This system looks to have good ground clearance, and retains your air conditioning. And is reasonably priced. Disadvantage is not as easy to simply switch out turbos and the turbos are not ball bearing like the c6 kits so you will lose a bit between shifts on a manual car and not have quite a fast a spool up likely as a bb one in the same or close to the same size.
I am not overly concerned as still am quite sure these things especially in a 408 or 427 will give me a potential of close to 850rwhp and if it takes a small shot of spray to get there no big deal either.
There is always bigger, better ,faster. But of course this speed habit is insatiable and can be bottomless for money.
There are compromises made on every design of course. And some advantages. This system looks to have good ground clearance, and retains your air conditioning. And is reasonably priced. Disadvantage is not as easy to simply switch out turbos and the turbos are not ball bearing like the c6 kits so you will lose a bit between shifts on a manual car and not have quite a fast a spool up likely as a bb one in the same or close to the same size.
I am not overly concerned as still am quite sure these things especially in a 408 or 427 will give me a potential of close to 850rwhp and if it takes a small shot of spray to get there no big deal either.
There is always bigger, better ,faster. But of course this speed habit is insatiable and can be bottomless for money.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
Interesting about bigger wheels. But can they be swapped by us or would we have to ship turbos back for install?
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It is disappointing that swapping to larger turbos won't be as straight forward as with a single kit. I don't have any idea who would be able to use the ones currently supplied with our kits (other than maybe a GTO guy who burns one up). That being said...there is a company here state-side that will be trying to develop an adapter plate that will connect to the manifolds supplied by APS, which could give us more options on future turbo upgrades. (That's a whole lot of words like: if.... maybe..... potentially; so don't quote me on that.)
I'm sure we will find a way to engineer a solution; preferably with APS's help.... at a reasonable price.
I'm sure we will find a way to engineer a solution; preferably with APS's help.... at a reasonable price.
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It's getting the credit card bill at the end of the month that is not so fun.
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Originally Posted by cpt_bimes
these kits are supernice
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Originally Posted by Brains
I see, that'll be an expensive upgrade for us early adopters then. Hopefully I can find a purpose for the smaller turbos if/when I upgrade ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
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Originally Posted by Darren P
when will the larger turbos be ready and will anything other than the turbo itself change
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
The way the turbos and housings are made its not going to be very good if you want to go to the bigger ones. With normal turbos like sts ,etc you would just simply unbolt your turbo with like 4 bolts and a couple of lines and sell it to the next guy. But with these custom housings its not like the average guy could use them very easily.
Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
There are compromises made on every design of course. And some advantages. This system looks to have good ground clearance, and retains your air conditioning. And is reasonably priced.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
Disadvantage is not as easy to simply switch out turbos and the turbos are not ball bearing like the c6 kits so you will lose a bit between shifts on a manual car and not have quite a fast a spool up likely as a bb one in the same or close to the same size.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
There is always bigger, better ,faster.
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Originally Posted by ternadorex
What are the chances for this kit working on a 3rd gen fbody with an ls1?
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Peter, I hate to play Mr. Obvious and I don't care to go back and read through 170 pages of this thread to check but has anyone checked to see if the intercooler neck will clear the non-Ws6, SS and Z28 hood? That neck looks pretty high.
Also, with the way the intercooler is mounted, do you see any real benefit of cutting out the front of the camaro bumper for additional cooling or will it see enough air from the bottom? Thanks.
Also, with the way the intercooler is mounted, do you see any real benefit of cutting out the front of the camaro bumper for additional cooling or will it see enough air from the bottom? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by SStolen
Peter, I hate to play Mr. Obvious and I don't care to go back and read through 170 pages of this thread to check but has anyone checked to see if the intercooler neck will clear the non-Ws6, SS and Z28 hood? That neck looks pretty high.
Also, with the way the intercooler is mounted, do you see any real benefit of cutting out the front of the camaro bumper for additional cooling or will it see enough air from the bottom? Thanks.
Also, with the way the intercooler is mounted, do you see any real benefit of cutting out the front of the camaro bumper for additional cooling or will it see enough air from the bottom? Thanks.