Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

F Body intercooled twin turbo system - preliminary pricing $5495 inc free delvery

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-05-2007, 07:38 PM
  #161  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (22)
 
NassyVette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 662
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by peter@aps
I very much doubt that the APS TT system would fit your 95 firebird (3rd generation F body) as the APS TT system is designed for the 98 to 02 model F body, 4th generation F body.

Peter
Third gens are the 82-92 camaros, 95 is still considered 4th gen, just fyi.
Old 03-05-2007, 07:41 PM
  #162  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Darren P
so this is a gravity drain back to the oilpan
or back to a holding tank with a pump
Correct, gravity drain back to the oil pan.

Originally Posted by Darren P
and how about turbo size
From the APS web site,

The highly specialized turbochargers are based upon custom Mitsubishi gasoline spec turbochargers with an Inconel 713C turbine wheel, liquid cooled bearing housing (50 lbs per minute mass air flow @ 18 PSI), APS single entry .84 A/R turbine housings with external waste gate port/provision and APS designed and manufactured .65 A/R compressor housing.

Originally Posted by Darren P
I am building a 403 ci LS2 with afr 225 heads
how large of a turbo will fit with this kit
The turbos as described above will support around 1000 HP and will be awesome on a 403 cube engine.

Peter
Old 03-05-2007, 07:45 PM
  #163  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CALL911
93 octane, or "premium". And what would be the next RWHP level for a stock motor on 93 octane with a methanol injection setup?
Around 550 whp on a bone stock engine and you would gain another 30 to 40 whp with meth injection though that would be about the absolute durability limit for a stock engine imo.

Peter
Old 03-05-2007, 07:58 PM
  #164  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by NassyVette
Third gens are the 82-92 camaros, 95 is still considered 4th gen, just fyi.
Thanks for that info. I'm told that there are a good numer of changes between 98/02 model vs the pre 98 model F body. In other words, the APS system should fit the 98 to 02 model like a glove and there may or maynot be issues with fitment to pre 98 F bodies.

Thanks,

Peter
Old 03-05-2007, 07:59 PM
  #165  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Darren P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Fairview NC (near Charlotte)
Posts: 717
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by peter@aps
I very much doubt that the APS TT system would fit your 95 firebird (3rd generation F body) as the APS TT system is designed for the 98 to 02 model F body, 4th generation F body.

Peter

the 4th gen is 1993 to 2002
it includes both LS1 and LT1
Old 03-05-2007, 09:37 PM
  #166  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
FLAWLS1T/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

wow..... I cant wait to see how this is going to play out in the F-body market, theres just TONS of guys who are going to jump all over this kit....
Old 03-05-2007, 09:56 PM
  #167  
TECH Enthusiast
 
mahhddgtp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Loganville, GA
Posts: 604
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Peter, I think you'd be better off editing your FIRST post... For people don't read threads

To answer some of the people's questions in here, I'm thinking we're going to have to wait for the kit to be final and there being real numbers given to us from APS (with info on the test car - [other mods]).

But, I am interested to know if there's a possibility to upgrade the size of the compressor wheel (larger compressor wheel -> more flow) like you can do to the Incon kits... BUT! I'm not expecting you to give us an answer, for this kit is not final...
Old 03-06-2007, 08:58 AM
  #168  
8 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
FastBlackTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,086
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by peter@aps
Awesome to hear that you're pleased with the C6 TT system and by all means email me when you have the system up and running, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the performance gains.

Thanks,

Peter
Will do.
Old 03-06-2007, 09:03 AM
  #169  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (3)
 
MY99TAWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Kelowna,BC
Posts: 4,719
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Ok glad to hear can keep my air conditioning. Also glad to hear about gravity feed since pumps are extra stuff and complicate things a bit. If the system is gravity feed then the turbos must be mounted higher than the gto system which uses a pump.
They look pretty low.So with higher turbo mounting would think ground clearance from the turbos would be good and yes understand you can still get low from the exhaust but again not overly worried would go back to stock height if necessary not a big deal to swap out springs.
My questions have pretty much all been answered now thanks Peter.
Old 03-06-2007, 02:25 PM
  #170  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (35)
 
bowtieman81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Maryland/Illinois
Posts: 1,660
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Does APS have parts for their kits that people can buy? I am wondering because if you guys make these in batches and sell them all do you have any parts inventory?

For example if an intake pipe was smashed during shipping, would a guy be able to buy this piece?
Old 03-06-2007, 03:20 PM
  #171  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (39)
 
BADSZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NW Chicago Subs
Posts: 3,321
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

This is great news. I hope these kits are still arround or being made when I have the time and money to build the car the way I want.
Old 03-06-2007, 04:09 PM
  #172  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
F-117HWK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Beautiful...hopefully this will be a hit and continue production until I reach this point for the T/A. Nice work!

Jason
Old 03-06-2007, 04:26 PM
  #173  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Darren P
the 4th gen is 1993 to 2002
it includes both LS1 and LT1
Ok, Thanks very much for your reply. I should just clarify that the APS TT system is designed for 98-02 model LS1 powered F body cars. Some guys may choose to fit the TT sysytem to earlier model F body cars though I can't comment if the TT system will be an ideal fit or not.

Peter
Old 03-06-2007, 04:32 PM
  #174  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FLAWLS1T/A
wow..... I cant wait to see how this is going to play out in the F-body market, theres just TONS of guys who are going to jump all over this kit....
I'm very positive that the APS TT system will be ideal for guys wanting around 550 whp on stock LS1 engines and up to 850 whp on built engines. APS have priced the F body TT system very keenly to ensure economical production volumes which allows APS to sell a very high quality product at a affordable price.

Peter
Old 03-06-2007, 04:38 PM
  #175  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
But, I am interested to know if there's a possibility to upgrade the size of the compressor wheel (larger compressor wheel -> more flow) like you can do to the Incon kits... BUT! I'm not expecting you to give us an answer, for this kit is not final...
There are a number of companies in the US who can fit high flow comp wheels to the Mitsubishi TDO6 turbocharger though I very much doubt that average guy will need larger comp flow. The Comp wheel on the APS F body turbocharger system as supplied is as large in terms of mass air flow as the GT3076R comp wheel.

Peter
Old 03-06-2007, 04:46 PM
  #176  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
Ok glad to hear can keep my air conditioning. Also glad to hear about gravity feed since pumps are extra stuff and complicate things a bit. If the system is gravity feed then the turbos must be mounted higher than the gto system which uses a pump. They look pretty low
Correct, The turbos are mounted higher in the F body system so no oil return pump is required.On the GTO the turbos are higher than the engine oil pan and gearbox so ground clearance is never an issue in any event.

Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
So with higher turbo mounting would think ground clearance from the turbos would be good and yes understand you can still get low from the exhaust but again not overly worried would go back to stock height if necessary not a big deal to swap out springs.
Just to clarify this point, the turbo clearance will never be a proplem as with all F bodies the left hand side exhaust Y pipe is always the main issue (lowest point) in terms of ground clearance.

Peter
Old 03-06-2007, 04:48 PM
  #177  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bowtieman81
Does APS have parts for their kits that people can buy? I am wondering because if you guys make these in batches and sell them all do you have any parts inventory?
We carry a good deal of inventory in stock though most guys will buy small bits and pieces in the US as it's cheaper and quicker to obtain.

Peter
Old 03-06-2007, 04:50 PM
  #178  
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
peter@aps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BADSZ28
This is great news. I hope these kits are still arround or being made when I have the time and money to build the car the way I want.
The F body TT system will be produced for as long as there's sufficient customer demand.

Peter
Old 03-06-2007, 07:06 PM
  #179  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
Houdini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Central Massachusetts
Posts: 370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Peter - Have you given any thought to making a kit for the 1993-1997 LT1 F-bodys?

The 98-02 F-body turbo kit will not work with the 92-97 at all.
Old 03-06-2007, 07:14 PM
  #180  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
JMBLOWNWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Braunfels ,Tx
Posts: 4,997
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Will my aftermarket K member be a problem? Or are you designing this kit for a stock suspension F body?


Quick Reply: F Body intercooled twin turbo system - preliminary pricing $5495 inc free delvery



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:51 PM.