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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Yeah baby...............crank up the twin turbos to 20 PSI...............that will test out your engine durability big time.

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I always wondered why you guys always post so late in the day....but it just dawned on me that your not even on the same continent!
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Yeah they are like 16 hours ahead of us. Our 4pm is their 8am!
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
Yeah baby...............crank up the twin turbos to 20 PSI...............that will test out your engine durability big time.

Peter

You mean W2W's engine....
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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well according to the poll have the kits are sold already
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by onfire
Peter, since you mentioned "end tank design"......

I had a custom front mount intercooler built by a major IC design/build company. When packaging does not preclude it, they prefer an endtank inlet like your C5 endtanks to create turbulance for better IC efficiency. I was worried about pressure drop due to the 90 degree flow change. Their engineer says "no worries". APS uses that type design and the tangent inlet design....what's your opinion between the two? TIA.
Where possible (where packaging restraints allow) I prefer to have to have twin end tanks for the incoming charge air as this alows for equal lenth tubing from the turbochargers to the intercooler core assembly as can be seen in the picture below. As with all intercooling the fine balance is to minimise presure drop across the entire intercooler system whilst ensuring the best possible reduction to charge air temperature.

Hope that helps,

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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I gotta built shortblock. If i get this twin turbo setup it will probably be on high boost all the time, lol.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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My cheap *** is sitting back and waiting to see SOM results and track times. But you guy's got me really thinking about boost
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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I have no doubt my car on high boost running on 18 in drag radials will go high tens with a very high mph like a Supra.

On a good tire/wheel combo I think I should be able to click off a high 9 which will be perfect.

if this kit does what it promises, (800+ rwhp) I should have no problem.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
I have no doubt my car on high boost running on 18 in drag radials will go high tens with a very high mph like a Supra.

On a good tire/wheel combo I think I should be able to click off a high 9 which will be perfect.

if this kit does what it promises, (800+ rwhp) I should have no problem.
If you have the drivetrain and traction I'd guess you should be well into the 9's at around 150 MPH.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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150 mph will work for me. LOL I can drive with a parachute on the back! that would be sweeeet!
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
Where possible (where packaging restraints allow) I prefer to have to have twin end tanks for the incoming charge air as this alows for equal lenth tubing from the turbochargers to the intercooler core assembly as can be seen in the picture below. As with all intercooling the fine balance is to minimise presure drop across the entire intercooler system whilst ensuring the best possible reduction to charge air temperature.

Hope that helps,

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I agree with the twin endtank design as shown in the picture.

But, do you prefer the inlet as shown in the 350z endtank (180 degrees) pic or the inlet in the C5 endtank (90 degrees). In theory the 90 degree inlet to the endtank creates a turbulent flow that makes the distribution across the core better. Agree or disagree?
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by onfire
I agree with the twin endtank design as shown in the picture.

But, do you prefer the inlet as shown in the 350z endtank (180 degrees) pic or the inlet in the C5 endtank (90 degrees). In theory the 90 degree inlet to the endtank creates a turbulent flow that makes the distribution across the core better. Agree or disagree?


I bet I can guess where this is going.......Onfire is getting out his welder and gloves

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by onfire
I agree with the twin endtank design as shown in the picture.

But, do you prefer the inlet as shown in the 350z endtank (180 degrees) pic or the inlet in the C5 endtank (90 degrees). In theory the 90 degree inlet to the endtank creates a turbulent flow that makes the distribution across the core better. Agree or disagree?
In theory, One realy wants to avoid highly turbulent flow because it consumes energy and results in lower entropy. Sometimes, the physical configuration of the car allows you to have a number of different intercooler configurations and our engineering team analizes each intercooler approach to arrive at the most efficient intercooler package for the target mass air flow of the turbochargers.

The reality of intercooler excellence in terms of performance equals:

-Largest intercooler surface area possible
-Optimal intercooler internal passage volume
-Lowest possible pressure drop
-Highest possible intercooler core efficiency
-Matched to the turbocharger air delivery in lb/min

In other words the greatest possible charge air temperature reduction with -the lowest possible pressure loss at the rated flow of the turbocharger.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Gotcha.

Current pic just for you Ed...go large or go home...
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by onfire
Gotcha.

Current pic just for you Ed...go large or go home...

WOW, that thing is huge.... I should have guessed!

looks cool Tom
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by onfire
Gotcha.

Current pic just for you Ed...go large or go home...
how's it gonna look with the bumper cover?
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 98PontiacTA
well according to the poll have the kits are sold already
Yes, the reponse from LS1 tech forum guys has been amazing and I believe that nearly all of the 30 F body TT systems will be sold as soon a I start taking deposits in early May, many thanks to all of the guys who have sent me pms regarding purchasing an APS F body twin turbo system, greatly appreciated.

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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
Yes, the reponse from LS1 tech forum guys has been amazing and I believe that nearly all of the 30 F body TT systems will be sold as soon a I start taking deposits in early May, many thanks to all of the guys who have sent me pms regarding purchasing an APS F body twin turbo system, greatly appreciated.

Peter
You are keeping track on a list for some sort of record, right? I just want to make sure I am on the list. You can bet I will be PM'ing you daily as May gets closer! Ha ha. Just to warn you.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 02SOMWS6
how's it gonna look with the bumper cover?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/682062-tt-pipes-back-coater.html

Go here so we can keep Peter's thread on track.

Can't wait to see your set-up Peter. It's going to be a killer option for the fbods.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugger Z
You are keeping track on a list for some sort of record, right? I just want to make sure I am on the list. You can bet I will be PM'ing you daily as May gets closer! Ha ha. Just to warn you.
I have a fair idea as to who wants to order an F body twin turbo system though as I said previously please email me in early May and I will then email you the purchase form.

Thanks,

Peter
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