Another aps build happening now..

Well as said its going good but haven't driven it yet. Still not sure what doing about my dud turbo ,the one that was cracked and letting coolant into oil. From more research it appears that you can run the mits 20gs even the nes with water cooling optioin ..without water if you wish. The oil cooling is the critical stuff . So for a bit going to run the aps snails. I have my ebay center carts as back ups for now. And have talked to Aps about my dud and Peter has been nice about it . So might send it back but not sure yet which side is the bad one.
I am hoping can take center carts out without having to yank entire exhaust manifolds off. If the compressor side is the c clip and the exhaust side has the vband think can pull the carts out without too much trouble??
Wish had one to take apart in front of me. If have to drop kmember whatever, have picker so not the end of the world but more work of course. Lucky have great peronsal mechanic buddy to help me if need be.
I am hyper to drive car of course. Very curious to see how the new supersonic blow offs sound. Very curious to actually go wot now that have the fuel support didn't have before when breaking in the engine.
Can't of course do any hard launching till that dana goes in and traction is zero anyway with the current old worn down nittos that are on there. Going to borrow buddies 16 inch et street radials and see how they work,maybe drive those full time,see after trying them. Have another set of near new nittos can also try out from my 96z but not expecting much from nittos at these power levels.
So where did some of you guys mount your eboost solenoids? I have not much room left under my hood. With lingenfelter two step, msd window switch, aem injector box,etc just not much room left under there.
Anyone pull a center cart without dropping kmember or taking entire exhaust manifodl and downpipe etc off the car?

Vacuum manifold

Aps intercooler neck

Lingenfelter two step and nitrous retard

Nitrous and fuel solenoids on passenger head front

Direct port zex kit

Aem injector box made bracket and mounted drivers side near rad

Hoping to have car fired up in next couple of days. Obviously not going to have everything wired up for awhile. Stupid amount of wiring to do on all this stuff.
Last edited by MY99TAWS6; May 12, 2009 at 09:54 PM.
The aem box was bit hard to find a place for since you can see have so much extra stuff in car now. But made bracket and put it beside rad and fuse boxes on drivers side .
The harness is totally plug and play which is nice. Just connect power and ground to the harness and plug in two plug it the aem unit. Then plug into old injector plugs and plug into injectors. Pretty simple really.
I could have tried 80 high but wanted to have options and headroom.
Should be findning out how they work in next few days ,should have it running but also installing 3 bar SD tune now so might take some tweaking. Doing tune myself and never done speed density before.
Anyone pull a center cart without dropping kmember or taking entire exhaust manifodl and downpipe etc off the car?
I pulled the drivers side cart out partially to access a fitting but i dont think i could have removed it completly with the K-member in place. I bet if you unbolt the exhaust manifold you could get it out.
Anybody find that the starter was very cramped to install?!?! I just about had to shoe-horn the thing into place and it is touching the heat shield of the turbo.
Tomz28 said he got a center cart out and don't think had to remove the kmember.
I was hoping to not drop kmember and not have to take off exhaust manifold. But will see when the time comes.
Not sure where you mean to put the solenoid. I have two to install so maybe put them on opposite sides of the oil pan like was suggested. I think be easier if they are closer to the turbos.
Tomz28 said he got a center cart out and don't think had to remove the kmember.
I was hoping to not drop kmember and not have to take off exhaust manifold. But will see when the time comes.
Not sure where you mean to put the solenoid. I have two to install so maybe put them on opposite sides of the oil pan like was suggested. I think be easier if they are closer to the turbos.
I own an 18 suite apartment building which I manage and wife caretakes but we dont' live in it and I take care of my 90 year old Dad. He had quite a few apartments but he sold them off since the partners had died off and the widows were a pain in the butt. We also have a farm we rent out. I am not rich or would be driving a new z1r .
I just like cars and modding them. Its an expensive hobby for sure. Other hobbies are guns, electric trains, metal detecting, photography.And I like to play video games and audio/video too. I guess I am just a big kid!
I have six kids and six grandkids. Married twice.. There Tom now you know everything there is to know about me.
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I had nightmare problem with cam sensor but think its behind me know. Not sure if had a couple of dud sensors or if it was connector issue. It caused me a lot of grief as you can't run my 120 low impedence injectors on batchfire which car defaults to from sequentional if your cam sensor goes down.
I put 60s back in for now just to be safe. 60s can run on batch mode and not load up and kill the car dead.
It was fantastic to drive my car after having it put away all winter and only got a few weeks driving in fall and the cam sensor thing which was annoying me to no end.
Its early to say what problems might have with my aps turbos.I still have standard ones in there planning on likely keeping the boost low this season maybe even just 7.5psi.
I have ebay center carts for back up and likely would get some from Louis or something similar over the winter. Not for power reasons but more for reliabilty and to be able to run nice low boost on the bigger turbos . Spool up is insane on the small standard turbos with a 408.I am sure they will start dying at higher rpm and boost levels but the car is already wicked fast and bet has around 600 or maybe 650rwhp. Dyno is planned for this season not sure about track runs.
Lots of potential here. While aps has some bugs and things still overall like the kit. It can be very stealthy if you want to stay off boost .But once on boost its not very stealthy at all. I put my stock bosche blow offs back on for temp as though they were makiing
the car idle bad but that was the 120s with the cam sensor problem.
I blocked off the recirc ports with home depot stuff and they bosche are actually decently loud. But sure my supersonic turbosmarts will sound much better than are not recirced by design.
I am very pleased with the way the car drives.With my 408 and cam choices the car is super docile to drive around unlike so many other guys cars i have been in with terrible cam surge and super lopey idle,stalling etc.
My cam is one that your granny can drive to the store. My tex twin actually has pretty low pedal pressure.Only think don't like about it much is the floater rattle whenever you push in the clutch. I am still going to 4l80 in next few months so no big deal. Sure my yank stall will still be fun and my 3.54 S60 rear end. I am babying the car right now since have the stock 10 bolt and buddy has bought it and my trans and clutch.
I have old nittos so they don't hook very well anyway.
That can save the rear end and driveshaft,etc.
I almost sold my car .Had couple of offers just last little while and was really tempted but glad now its running right again. I will deal with my aps little issues. Next on list is to stent the inlet pipes. Easy as pie to do. Then see about front swaybar not sure exactly what going to do on that issue yet. Its big hotchkis one but sure will figure out something.
Turbos as said if they die this season have back ups.Overheating none today but it was only think around 70 out.Still didn't even have my air deflector on the car right now but wasn't run air in traffic either. I will upgrade rad and water pump to high flow if necessary.Its not as bad up here as it is in southern states. So don't see huge problems.
If see any oil for no reason will just put couple hundred buck scavenger pump on there simple hook up and wiring.
Anyway its great to be driving my red beast again. Looking forward to a fun season. Some low boost dynos and maybe a track run or two.
Turbos rule, twin turbos rule. built 408s rule, twin turbo built 408s with direct port rules..I love my car!
And its so mellow off boost. Cops today didn't hardly notice it. Cutout closed thru my b and b nice sounding .Open cutout , floor it ,unleash the dogs of war..or hounds of hell. Nothing beats turbo sounds and nice blow offs.Pure vehicular SEX! L
If my dana makes noise then will go buy factory 354 gears. Its the gears nothing else.
If strange is using Richmond gears they are horrible things. I will for sure yank them and go to factory dana gear or possbly try some Yukons.
I hate loud rear ends big time had that problem on this car with the 10 bolt. First motive gears that were quiet in my 97 ta 4.10 motives but horrible loud in my 99. Then tried richmond 3.73 in the 99 they were more horrible than the motives. I had them yanked and went to 3.42 gm again and nice and quiet.
So just yank the strange gears out, get someone to professionally setup some factory dana gears or possibly yukons. You need a street gear not a race gear. Still plenty strong at least behind my auto.I didn't get spool either heard the dana tru track can take lots of power behind an auto and my car is not going to see much track or hard launches.Its just a street toy.
And yes Tom its great to have my car running again. Love it to death. The aps might have some problems but if you stick with it still a pretty nice setup. I will put in my ebay snails if have problems with the aps. I will run the aps likely at 7.5 mostly so they maybe last the season. If they give me problems as said in go the ebay ones. So have to drop kmember no big deal have cherry picker anyway.
I would prefer to take off entire exhaust manifolds over winter and get exhaust man and turbo exhaust housings ceramic coated.
I will seriously look at some from Louis 60s would likely be fine or some billet bb ones.
I am going to stick with my kit ,tweak it ,tommorrow likely will stent the inlets with some oval tubing like other guy did on here. I will figure out a fix for my hotchkis swaybar.
I will upgrade rad and water pump if need to. It don't get that hot here. Today with no air deflector and 70 degrees out it was fine. I have fans set to come on low though.
I won't be hard on the car for awhile ,likely stay at minimum or close for this season. Might do low boost dyno. Possibly low boost track run.I have to be nice to current 10 bolt and trans and clutch as they belong to buddy now and when he finishes paying me for them will order that new stage 5 flt 4l80e. I cam close to selling the 99. very close.Had few not too bad offers but still under what I wanted. So the new c6 can wait maybe get a c7 and still keep my 99,we do have some history together and she still has 20,000km on her. Thats 12,000 original for you yanks! LOL
I will try to put some more on though from now on as figure cars are to be driven not hidden in garages.
I have a lot of work still to do on the car but at least its driveable now.And damn does it sound good with the cutout open you can really hear the turbos then but you can hear them not open too.
I have those bosche just till tommorrow my supersonic turbosmarts should sound awesome .I plan to get video camera maybe in next week and should be able to take some movies soon.
yeah their are some problems with the aps kit most any kit but I will overcome!
And damn the car can already scare me at low boost. But a built 408 is pretty wicked even with no boost .My spray will be hooked up a bit later on this season.Its all there just have to finish up the wiring on it.
Want to order alc injection soon as well .But wanted trunk tank and not sure it can fit where I want it to. I don't want to give up my dual 12s on the package tray .I like my tunes just a big kid thats me. 51 years old and just a big kid! Hey whatever life is short ,live it!
And it can be very short when you drive a 1000rwhp or so potential TT TA!
Hear of some guys that seem to get quiet ones but if they are richmond its not going to happen.I should find out and install some stock ones if they are indeed richmonds.I hate to waste money but I hate loud rear ends. My car is super nice and streetable now.Want to keep that.
A tunnel mounted torque arm is worse too. I have now got a crossmember mounted one to install when do the 4l80.
And since finished up the 4l80e swap at in beginning of november roads were too cold to really see how the car was with the new trans.Also was having some bad vibration issues which think might have mostly fixed ,played with torque arm settings, had my strange driveshaft rebalanced and shimmed trans at trans mount area. But again couldn't really take car up to higher speeds do to cold roads and zero traction in pretty much any gear with my getting worn out nittos.
Car was put away mid november. Now assembling parts for final modfest hoping to finish up car this season.
I have purchased the custom Aps BMR kmember that Barnat got ,should give more room in there in key areas. I am planning on ordering pretty sure LG turbo upgrades in next month or so,have got high flow water pump waiting to go in and think ordering Ron Davis rad. Am ordering up a derale 4l80 trans pan and hoping it works out with my 24 inch cylindrical trans cooler mounted across car behind air dam. I may drill some air holes to let more air pass over the trans cooler. Since my car was t56 no in rad trans cooler option and not sure want to get it in the new rad.
Have some bigger c5 z06 brakes to install, have hawk hps pads and getting some front KVR c5 rotors already running KVR rotors on the back and few of my other cars.
Better brakes will be a good thing!
Still kicking around replacing my poly motor mounts that came with my aps kit with stock mounts and some type of torque strap idea. But think would destroy stock rubber mounts too frequently at my planned power levels.
Bought fluidampr balancer getting rid of underdrive asp that have currently. Also kicking around carbon fiber driveshaft from maybe Mark Williams or PST. I had one in past and really liked it. Very light, very smooth and vib free.
Have bought some et street radials in 295/45/17 size to run on track runs and on street occassionally. Plan to just run some firehawk wide oval275/40/17 front, 285/40/17s back in daily driving and don't expect them to hook up too good but that might keep me out of trouble. I may go back to nitto back tires for street or possibly new toyo tires for street. Toyos are readily available here nittos are bit harder to get have to order them in .Think the new toyos might be bit better though. Heck maybe will decide to run et street radials 24/7. Car dont' usually see rain and gets maybe 5000 miles a year on it.
Want to run an alc injection system this year as well. And have to up my injectors which are 60s currently to 80 high impedence or run my 120 low impedence ones that have if want to use just not sure want to bother with the box, conversion harness and if really need 120s. Got them in hopes we would get e85 but don't look likely ,only like couple stations in my whole country and none near me.
I am hoping to do get car dynoed this season we have dynojet and mustang dyno in sister city but only engine dyno in my city. I would likely go to the dynojet.Also hoping to track car at local NHRA track which doubt will get to run car much since dont' have rollbar and dont' think getting one. We also have couple non nhra tracks that are more casual so might get to run the car there and hoping to hit 9.xx goal even 9.99 will be fine with me. Hoping to see dyno goals of 800rwhp for daily driving and maybe 1000rwhp for max mostly just for bragging dyno rights. But not sure how easy that will be to do on the dynojet since not sure it can do load and not sure with auto how it will be to dyno.
As planned did order Ron Davis rad should be here shortly. Decided to run trans cooler in the rad in addition to auxillary and may not run any special trans pan if it runs cool enough.I do drive the car in cooler weather in spring and fall and so think good to heat up the fluid some thru the rad,my aux cooler has no thermostat type of thing in it.
Also ordered LG upgrades and they had no upgraded inlet tubes left supposedly aps might do another run in six weeks? so guess use my current ones for now and stent them more or figure out some other idea for permanent solution,see how much room the bmr/aps kmember gives me. Any of you guys with upgraded inlets for sale can pm me.
Did get some 80 pound high impedence siemens injectors, going to run them for awhile ,possibly switch to my low impedence ones down the road if need to. I like the cleaner setup of the high impedence. To run the low impedence since still on stock ecu, have to run conversion box and run conversion harness.Clutters things up a bit.
So should be doing massive modfest of all the new stuff in about three weeks. Waiting on my mechanic/buddy to return from holidays.
Rad,high flow water pump,80s,LG turbos, new kmember, the c5 z06 brake swap,fluidampr balancer ..get it all done before april 1 with any luck.
That will just leave some minor stuff to do later, new driveshaft,alc injection ,lots of wiring to finish up on nitrous system and various little things but they won't put the car down to do.
Season is short up here and like to drive the car,not have it apart in garage.
Started on front have adapter kit but still had to order corvette caliper brackets 12455799 and got some slide pins 12530697 and guide boots 12530703. Front antirattle clip kit from napa is 83212A. Think my stainless ls1 brake lines will work in the front.Should have front done as soon as recieve the above parts.Swap is fairly simple but adds up with all the adapters and extra parts.
Today likely start removing stuff, stock rad, asp underdrive,stock water pump.And replace as said with Ron Davis rad, high flow water pump and fluidampr. Also putting in billet tensioner pulley and swapping to high pressure spring in my slp oil pump.Will be swapping out the power steering cooler thing for non power steering rad hose. Figure that will give me some more room and its tight in there as seen from another aps with Ron Davis rad swap.
The LG turbos are still don't think even shipped out. Not overly happy with that and hoping they ship out soon.I ordered them back in feb. I don't really want to drive the car at all with the aps turbos anymore.


