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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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You know this from experience? Right now I'm torn as to what to do. The AEM 320lph looks to be enough for what I want too. And its smaller so less butchering
Yes, my personal car. 600whp 92 octane. built 60e, 9", 28" drag radials on the dyno. 600/530 unlocked converter :
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 02:25 AM
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Bump for new info.

I bought a 450 e85 to run with my camaro bucket. Install seems easy. Will be running new steel lines from tank to front. Probably 3/8" so factory f-body size.
Braided from firewall to rails & regulator. Aeromotive FPR.. Or the VS racing one, same thing lol
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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I'll be running a 450 with a -8 feed line to fast rails then a magnafuel boost reference regulator and utilizing the factory feed line as a return line. Going in a turbo 408 car.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KyleLanter
I'll be running a 450 with a -8 feed line to fast rails then a magnafuel boost reference regulator and utilizing the factory feed line as a return line. Going in a turbo 408 car.
Why are you running a -8 feed line when the pump outlet is -6?
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglegoat
Why are you running a -8 feed line when the pump outlet is -6?
Will more than likely upgrade to a duel set up in the future so looking to buy fuel line once instead of twice.
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Old Oct 26, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Jesus 808
a single 450 with a hotwire kit will overpower the stock regulator. I saw 72psi at idle.
Originally Posted by Fat Jesus 808
single 450 without a hotwire makes 600+whp and idle pressure was 60ish with a stock regulator and lines\rails
Bumping to confirm this.


Currently running stock 2000 Fbody tank, hardlines, fuel rails, walbro 255 (No hotwire)

Will be running turbo(600rwhp goal) so I thought a Walbro 450, 80 lbs injectors on the stock Fbody fuel system would do the job.

Any advice? Recommendations?

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Old Oct 27, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Currently running stock 2000 Fbody tank, hardlines, fuel rails, walbro 255 (No hotwire)

Will be running turbo(600rwhp goal) so I thought a Walbro 450, 80 lbs injectors on the stock Fbody fuel system would do the job.

Any advice? Recommendations?
Depends on fuel type, base pressure, and max boost.
Play with these...
http://www.deatschwerks.com/resources/fuel-calculators/

Highly doubt it will survive long using stock fbody fuel system. With turbo involved the last thing you want is fuel starvation.



Good way to save money with turbo fueling is running dual pumps in-tank, use a Hobbs switch or comparable trick to turn second pump on when boost kicks in.
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Old Oct 27, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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I'm thinking I will keep the 255 and add the 450 on a hobb switch(3 psi). That seems like the budget friendly thing to do at this time.

I know the stock fuel line will be okay for 600 rwhp.
Not sure about the intank regulator.

Not much info regarding the 450 pump on stock fbody fuel set up. I know the 450 has worked in stock truck fuel systems at 700rwhp.
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It will push through the stock regulator, so you have to do an external one.
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Old Nov 10, 2016 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by enginjoe
It will push through the stock regulator, so you have to do an external one.
Found a few people running duals on stock lines, rails and reg without return:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...-limits-2.html

Originally Posted by conan
I'm at 616 RWHP on stock fuel lines, fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator. 60# injectors, Lonnie's dual in tank 255's pumps. Plan on pushing this to the 700 mark in the spring.

Also to add my meth/water injection doesn't supplement any of my fueling.
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I have twin walbro 255s from Lonnie's on the stock line and stock regulator, no return.
^^760rwhp

Originally Posted by jmm98LS1
A friends car I tuned is going 9 teens at 153mph at 3670lbs on stock lines/reg/filter with twin 255s and 127lb injectors on E85. Math says well over 800rwhp. We're at the limit though, running out of fuel at 20psi boost.
Originally Posted by HolyShiznit
We were running out of duty cycle and fuel pressure was dropping with 80lbs'/twin walbro 255's/stock rails, lines, regulator @ 20psi on a PT88/5.3 through the auto on 110 octane. Upgrading to a Nasty Performance Stage 3 if it ever ships

I'll do some R&D with my 255/450 combo.
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Old Nov 10, 2016 | 08:02 AM
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Yeah, I read those threads too. Then I installed my 450 and it does 70psi. I could tune for that, but it's just not right.
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by No Juice
Here is what I did. I also have the hotwire kit and a boost-a-pump. We'll get to the boost-a-pump thing later.

I upgraded the wiring in the tank as well as the connector on the top per Racetronix recommendations. You can do it if you want, not sure its needed, but I didn't want to take a chance since I plan to upgrade to dual pumps later.


Stock bucket
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Start cutting out the bottom
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Fit the new pump in, but need to remove the stock syphon tube since that won't work anymore
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Add filter sock
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Make sure you get it wired up properly with the new connectors
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Do NOT use these tubes that Racetronix says fit - THEY DO NOT FIT
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Do yourself a favor and go buy some of this
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All finished
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Now on to the boost-a-pump if you are going to run one. So the boost-a-pump runs on a 40amp fuse. Yes the hotwire kit has a plug and play connection for the boost-a-pump. But why the **** would you make and sell a hotwire kit with only a 20amp fuse in it specifically made to run a boost-a-pump in. Not knowing it was only a 20amp fuse, this is what happened the first time it reached boost about 5 miles from my house.
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Lesson learned I guess
Hey, how did you keep your pump secured onto the base of the bucket? I wanna copy your install but I don’t want my pump flopping around in there or anything.
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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I didn't do anything special. Fits plenty tight and there is no real place for it to go
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Old Jan 27, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by No Juice
I didn't do anything special. Fits plenty tight and there is no real place for it to go
Did you fit it into the hole that the original pump hung in on the upper part of the bucket and then Just let it sit on the bottom and the hole you cut?
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Old Jan 27, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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Correct. I cut the hole larger to fit the sock on the pump
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 03:34 PM
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Bumping this back up. I’ve been having tuning woes lately. My fuel pressure gauge won’t fit on my setup, because I turned my rails around, to come into the right (passenger) side of the car with my line. I bought a setup to mount on my rail permantely, and it turns out that I’m at 75ish pounds of pressure. I do not want to try and tune to this pressure.
I guess at this point I put another regulator at the fuel rail? Already have the GM corvette regulator back at the rear of the car inline, which worked well with my 255 pump. I’m now running a TI450 pump (Walbro), and pressure is 15 pounds higher.

Answered my own question I guess, and ordered a regulator...

Last edited by Che70velle; Jan 31, 2018 at 05:21 PM. Reason: Ordered an in-line regulator
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 06:44 PM
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Yeah ditch the regulator at the rear and install one near the rails on the return side.
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by No Juice
Yeah ditch the regulator at the rear and install one near the rails on the return side.
Gotcha. So, let’s say I mount the new adjustable regulator in the rear of the Chevelle, and add an inline filter. Speculating here...should I turn up the pressure, say to 65, to allow for full throttle losses? -6 line everywhere.

My return line is about two feet long currently. My corvette regulator is mounted on the rear cross member, in front of the tank. I’d rather not run a return line to the front of the car, just not a lot of extra room with this chassis.

Can I successfully mount the regulator in the rear, or does it need to be up front, with return line to the rear, to work correctly. Fuel systems are not my specialty.
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Old Feb 1, 2018 | 08:16 AM
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Place the gauge and regulator as close to the rail as possible to get most accurate and consistent readings where it matters most. Ideally place them after the rails in the return line.

Here is how mine is set up using stock 97-98 vette rails. I use the stock feed line and added a new return line back to the tank from the rails.

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Old Feb 1, 2018 | 05:52 PM
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Thanks for the pic. My ls7 rail doesn’t have a return. Could I come out of where the Schrader valve is, for a return? It’s a -4.
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