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EPP 10-27-2009 04:18 AM

I swapped out the locker for a Wavetrac yesterday in the GTO we took to the Shootout
 
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=11

The car is ready for the track, we're going to see how the weather holds out for Muncie Dragway tomorrow night. You can check out the Moser M9 (fabricated rear) we have installed in this GTO at the above link. We currently have this GTO at 809 rwhp on 93 octane fuel, methanol injection is coming, etc. Moser is confident the Wavetrac will handle the power, and we're anxious to try it out at this power level. We've installed Wavetrac's in lesser horsepowered cars, and they're working great. This car has a manual transmission, and is on M/T 325/50R15's, so it will put it to the test! Bob

jerflash 10-28-2009 06:52 PM

hey if the wave trac holds up to that then i got nothing to worry about lol...let us know

EPP 10-29-2009 05:20 AM

We got this GTO back together with a Wavetrac. The car turns so much easier than it did with the locker, it made a huge difference. We decided to take the car to our local track last night. Brent ran the car as I have a pinched nerve in my neck. He came out at 4000 on the first run and it hooked so hard it bogged. It went a 2.?? 60 ft, granny shifted it to a 11.30 or so at 134 mph on that run with the blower belt slipping. We tightened down the blower belt and Brent went back to the line for his 2nd run and came out at 6000 rpm. Keep in mind this 809 rwhp GTO has a Moser M9 with a Wavetrac, 3.50 gears now and a torque arm, with M/T 325/50R15's. Something broke in the built 6 speed trans, car doesn't move in any gear.... Oh, did I mention I drove this GTO to the track... We needed to get break in miles on the drivetrain. We're picking it up today. This car desperately needs a 4L80E transmission. We can tell this new rear is going to work great, even with the stock front suspension! Bob

jerflash 10-29-2009 05:46 AM

what was done to the 6speed?
im glad to see the wavetrac is working great

BlackScreaminMachine 10-29-2009 07:21 AM

Sounds good Bob, hopefully this will be the magic bullet for reliable limited slip diffs. Personally do not expect in the long run to be much better then a Tru Trac and for the price, it def has some high expectations.

But I would love to be proved wrong, for all racers, that would be a good thing.

Please keep us posted.

airforcemanss 10-29-2009 12:28 PM

why a 3.50 gear bob?

EPP 10-29-2009 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by jerflash (Post 12433600)
what was done to the 6speed?
im glad to see the wavetrac is working great

RPM Transmissions Level V build, it is going to need a stronger input shaft to handle the power, and even then no one knows how long it will last. The Viper guys run into this all the time, dumping the clutch at 6000 rpm is extremely violent and they're always having to rebuild their transmissions. Years ago, very few had 1000hp.


The Wavetrac looks very promising!



Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine (Post 12433718)
Sounds good Bob, hopefully this will be the magic bullet for reliable limited slip diffs. Personally do not expect in the long run to be much better then a Tru Trac and for the price, it def has some high expectations.

But I would love to be proved wrong, for all racers, that would be a good thing.

Please keep us posted.

Will do indeed, thanks.


Originally Posted by airforcemanss (Post 12434813)
why a 3.50 gear bob?

Moser thought the 3.50 gear combination would be stronger for this application than the 3.70 gear that we did have in there. With an automatic it wouldn't of been an issue. Bob

jerflash 10-29-2009 03:29 PM

well bob i hope to keep my 6speed in my car for the long haul. doing 6000 clutch dumps but with about 600 rwhp max. i love driving the 6 speed to much to give it up ever lol...i wana be able to do high 9s and keep the 6speed...thats my hope anyway lol

EPP 10-29-2009 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by jerflash (Post 12435551)
well bob i hope to keep my 6speed in my car for the long haul. doing 6000 clutch dumps but with about 600 rwhp max. i love driving the 6 speed to much to give it up ever lol...i wana be able to do high 9s and keep the 6speed...thats my hope anyway lol

I hear you. I've always preferred driving manual transmissions. My first new car was a new '82 Z28, and it was a manual 4 speed. A Comp 268 camshaft went into the 'lil 305 shorty after I broke in the engine. Bank then, Comp had these yellow half page ads in Hot Rod magazine - The good ole days! I raced a lot of people with that new car, they never suspected that it was anything but stock. Who would be stupid enough to do that to a new car back in '82? Bob

EPP 10-31-2009 05:40 AM

Update: It turned out to be the output shaft that broke in the transmission. RPM Transmissions ordered a much stronger 32 spline output shaft, and with some machine work and a turbo 400 yoke, we should have it back at the track within a week. Bob

jerflash 10-31-2009 07:52 AM

very cool...need more track info on this posi...mine should be on the road this week as well

EPP 10-31-2009 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by jerflash (Post 12442961)
very cool...need more track info on this posi...mine should be on the road this week as well

Hopefully we'll have it at the track next weekend. Bob

EPP 11-07-2009 04:28 AM

Muncie Dragway today opens at 10:00. VHT is reportedly going to be put down all the way down the track! Rodney from RPM Transmissions is running Cody's GTO for us today. (809 rwhp and a six speed) Brent can't make it and I have a pinched nerve in my neck so I don't want to try driving this beast. Bob

litemup02 11-07-2009 07:28 PM

Should defenatly be a good test car:eek2: Bob, i still havnt sent my true-trac to moser cuz i didnt want the down time...But winter is near so i'll be doing it then. If it is trashed i'm certainly not putting another one in..maybe i'll get lucky and they will give me a deal on the wavetrac:angel:

EPP 11-08-2009 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by litemup02 (Post 12476931)
Should defenatly be a good test car:eek2: Bob, i still havnt sent my true-trac to moser cuz i didnt want the down time...But winter is near so i'll be doing it then. If it is trashed i'm certainly not putting another one in..maybe i'll get lucky and they will give me a deal on the wavetrac:angel:

Possibly, I'll do what I can for you. :cheers:

The Wavetrac performed flawlessly yesterday at the track. Clearly this GTO now needs to ditch the oem front shocks and springs. 60 ft time was in the 1.55 range. The drag radial/manual transmission combo isn' the best either, a bias ply ET Street would work much better with the manual transmission, but the drag radial works much better as an all around street tire. Bob

jerflash 11-08-2009 08:34 AM

im hoping to put down some low 1.5s next time at the track...see if i can finaly get my car together

EPP 11-14-2009 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by jerflash (Post 12478498)
im hoping to put down some low 1.5s next time at the track...see if i can finaly get my car together

Good luck with it.

Pedders 90/10 front shocks showed up the other day for this GTO, they should make a huge difference. Bob

Engine_HP 11-14-2009 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus (Post 12423212)


very nice i enjoyed all of it.

BlackNightmare 11-14-2009 08:36 PM

Bob is the Wavetrac available for the Moser 12 bolt. I broke my trutrac last weekend and I am debating what I am going to put back in there besides a trutrac. I am looking at either a spool or Wavtrac or locker.My car sees very little street use and am just thinking of going spool and let it be.

EPP 11-15-2009 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by BlackNightmare (Post 12501899)
Bob is the Wavetrac available for the Moser 12 bolt. I broke my trutrac last weekend and I am debating what I am going to put back in there besides a trutrac. I am looking at either a spool or Wavtrac or locker.My car sees very little street use and am just thinking of going spool and let it be.

To my knowledge the Wavetrac is not available for the 12 bolt. I'd go with a spool, less money, lighter, etc. Thanks. Bob


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