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M6 + 4.10's?? love/hate?

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:24 AM
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Same boat for me. I just put 3:73's in my Stang and from stock it really made a seat of the pants diff. But it seems kinda loud when you let off of it.
Now I want to do my M6-DD TA. But don't want to hear all the noise. Is there such a thing as 4:10's that are quiet as stock? I know the 10" is a weak link but I'm pretty easy on my **** and I don't hit the track. People that know me say the 10 will hold. But the damn noise!!
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^ If you're easy on the stock rear and stock gears it will last. I've had my car (second owner) since Jan 03 and still on the same rear. I put the NT05's on not long ago and took it for a couple hard rides around town and purposely shifted HARD to see if it would break loose.. It didn't but I did pick up on a couple small "clicks" in the back end that made me think the rear wasn't liking what I was doing. I could feel something odd through the chassis when I shifted. It wasn't there before. Almost a clunk, but not as hard. Harder than a "tick" though.. but that would be the right word to use for it..

Originally Posted by Justins00ss
Hey Bayer this is (smokinss on NEFBA) I love my 4.11s in my 9 inch. I had 4.10s in the 10 bolt and had the rear rebuilt 2 times and it didnt matter they would always seem to howel after a few good passes with drag radials. Now Ive got the 9 inch and leave at 6600rpm with slicks and that rear doesnt make a noise. Just food for thought. You might want to start saving for a good rear. And like you my SS doesnt see the street but a couple times a week.
That just sounds simply badass dude!!! Everything ELSE in my car is setup to take the abuse, but I would just LOVE to know that I can leave on a HARD launch and not have to worry one bit about it!! That would sell me to wait it out for a 9" and 4.10's right there! To NOT have the worry about breaking the rear.. That's why I spent the extra coin on my trans and clutch anyway... Not to mention chrome-moly parts for the rest for the car.
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My differential blew up (original Auburn) so I'm in the process of rebuilding the 10 bolt with a Detroit Truetrac and going back to 3.42 gears.

I had 4.10's for 4 years, ever since I had the car. They are absolutely useless for anything other than 1/4 mile drag racing. You have to constantly shift (5th gear by 35MPH cruising) and they kill your top end on the highway. They are also more susceptible to breaking (10 pinion teeth vs. 12 stock) and actually have higher parasitic loss.

And despite what anyone will tell you, shorter gears like 4.10's only help in 1st gear to get you into the powerband sooner. After that, your car's acceleration is entirely dependent on horsepower, so your car will not be any faster after 1st gear.
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^ Mr.4.10 buzzkillington himself lol
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Originally Posted by SHovV
^ Mr.4.10 buzzkillington himself lol
Real useful post...
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That's funny but true in a way. I'll just wait out the cash for a 9" and redo the rear then.

"buzzkillington" sounds like a Family Guy character.
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The 4.10's really woke up my car untill i wheel hopped at the track...
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I autocross with 4.10 and a M6. Really enjoy the 4.10's there. Gear whine is there but mostly only heard on engine breaking. Love the extra torque available in 2nd gear. Spend most of my time there and have never had to shift to 3rd myself.
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Had 4.10s in the rear when I first built my car. Actually ended up cracking the center section in half so I went back to 3.42s...HATE it now. I've got the gears just haven't found time yet to get them installed again. Do it, you won't regret it!
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Yeah man, you wont regret saving for the 9 inch. And then you will need some good tires to hold the launch.
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I loved my 410s the day i got them. My 456s so far are a true love/hate, but ive been on the street with them for less than 5 days and have yet to hammer it
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had 4.10's in my ten bolt. now have them in my 12 bolt. broke the diff with the 3.42's, then spun the side gear clutch with the 4.10's. figured why spend another 600 on a 10 bolt and bout a 12 bolt. ramen noodles are bad for the first couple years.
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I like them, the car feels like it gets into the powerband quicker. My only complaint is that 1st gear feels really short.
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so after i ordeed my 9 inch i saw this post and im hoping i didnt mess up lol, i have the m6 and i wanted to up grade but not to aggressive so went from 3.42s to 3.70s , was thinking 4.10s would be over kill for a DD but, u think the 3.70s ill see a diff and be happy with or what, and i liked my 3.42s never thought about regearing till i got this axle so bumped it up a notch (but also never been in anything with 4.10s so) if so how much would it be to redo it to 4.10s? or u think its worth it?
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Originally Posted by ToxicWS6
so after i ordeed my 9 inch i saw this post and im hoping i didnt mess up lol, i have the m6 and i wanted to up grade but not to aggressive so went from 3.42s to 3.70s , was thinking 4.10s would be over kill for a DD but, u think the 3.70s ill see a diff and be happy with or what, and i liked my 3.42s never thought about regearing till i got this axle so bumped it up a notch (but also never been in anything with 4.10s so) if so how much would it be to redo it to 4.10s? or u think its worth it?
I think you should call whoever you ordered everything from and get 410s NOW! Ive been in 373 and 410 cars ( my car had 410s till i blew the rear up) and 373s are like only putting the tip in. I mean yeah, your in, but not quite all the way and all your gonna do is want more.
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I've had 3.42/3.73/3.90 and now 4.10's. If my car was near stock and rolling on 26" tires I'd
prefer the 3.73's esp for a DD. But now w/ higher HP and 28" tires the 4.10's are just dandy
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Originally Posted by SS4Luck
373s are like only putting the tip in. I mean yeah, your in, but not quite all the way and all your gonna do is want more.
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Ive had 4.10s in my dd for around 25000kms i really dont know why you bother with anything else unless you had a turbo.
4'10s all the way ive also got a slightly closer ratio t56 1-4 i can put down 10L/100km or to you guys 2.64 Gallons/62Miles < lol not sure if that makes sense to you guys i converted it to imperial.
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Originally Posted by csv033
Ive had 4.10s in my dd for around 25000kms i really dont know why you bother with anything else unless you had a turbo.
4'10s all the way ive also got a slightly closer ratio t56 1-4 i can put down 10L/100km or to you guys 2.64 Gallons/62Miles < lol not sure if that makes sense to you guys i converted it to imperial.
I applaud you taking the time to convert your info into what 99% of the site understands. You, my friend, are cool as hell!

2.64 Gallons/62 Miles = 23.48 MPG

With the closer ratio T56 would I be correct in saying that you have a Monaro?
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I have a moser 9 with 4.11's. after going from 4.10's in a 10 bolt to the m9. there is a noticable difference in power loss. i think the 3rd-to-4th gear shift would be ten times better if id chosen 4.56..... dont get me wrong ladies,
the all around street driving is way better going from 3.42s to 411s.

However I honestly feel like i should have went 456!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

da stunna


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