2000LS1Z28

Yes, the Yank 4400 will be looser than the Vig 3600(actual 4200), especially with 3.23 gears. The Yank 4400 seems to work well with 3.73's and it is superior from a roll as compared to the Vig 3600. As for 1/4 mile performance, I honestly think you could squeeze out an extra 1-1.5 tenths with this switch. They'll both come out of the hole even but you should gain a little top end and mph with the Yank 4400. Whether its worth it is up to you though. If your not entirely happy with the converter you have now the only place to go from here is to the Yank 4400.

Mike

Patrick G

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Yes, the YPT4400 is spectacular from a roll. The unique stator in the Pro Thruster is what give the converter such good thrust from a roll (plus excellent top end efficiency). This comes at a small price as the PT is a little mushier at mid-throttle tip-in compared to the Vig.

If you're going to make a change, run the Raughammer approved PT4600...it's the bomb! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

98TAauto

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also mines not a daily driver.. its just a track(spring/fall) or sunday cruiser...

its just that the vig has gotten so it doesnt even feel fast anymore.. plus i see all the times those 4400's are laying down... if i get one its gonna be the 4400-4600

looseness really doesnt effect me to bad.. in fact i sorta like it,, kinda feels like a clutch slipping, so you can pop a rev in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

i figure if i sell the vig the 4400-4600 would cost me around 450-500.. installs free so im good to go there..

i just need some more top end on this puppy..

also, is anyone spraying on this? i just have a 75-100 dry kit, which i havent really ever sprayed at the track... but im not saying i dont/wouldnt use it on street from roll..

i know the 4400 wouldnt be the best for spraying, but it would still handle the juice half way decently right?

later on, ill probably end up doing heads/cam(12bolt).. gotta catch the Raughammer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> )i can stop dreaming now lol)

any other opinions?? need lots of info on this to make my mind up

Silent but Violent

My verter should be here Wed. Car has been sitting on jack satnds for 2 and a half weeks now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> I'll be sure to let you know what I think of the TP 4400 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> You need to try some slicks with your setup since your car is mostly "race only". Bet your not dead hooking with the Nitto's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Ragtop 99

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Harold, when I drove your car, I remember thinking that your Vig 3600 wasn't much looser than my ST 3500. The YTP 4400 is noticably more loose than a ST 3500. You'll definitely use 200 - 400 more rpms around town.

From a roll it is awesome. Remember driving my ST 3500? The YTP 4400 blows it away from a roll. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

ET wise .2 is the max you can hope for and I'm not sure you'll see it on nittos.

More than a 100 shot is a lost cause on the YTP 4400. A YTP 4000 would be a better balance between NA from a roll and spraying.

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong>Harold, when I drove your car, I remember thinking that your Vig 3600 wasn't much looser than my ST 3500. The YTP 4400 is noticably more loose than a ST 3500. You'll definitely use 200 - 400 more rpms around town.

From a roll it is awesome. Remember driving my ST 3500? The YTP 4400 blows it away from a roll. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

ET wise .2 is the max you can hope for and I'm not sure you'll see it on nittos.

More than a 100 shot is a lost cause on the YTP 4400. A YTP 4000 would be a better balance between NA from a roll and spraying.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Joel, im not looking to spray hardly any at the track, just u know how things can go on the street.. but at the track im worried way more about the NA runs.. i havent sprayed at the track in over a year <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

oh and i thought my 3600 felt alot looser then your st3500.. its probably just driver opinon..

Silent, let me know as soon as you find out.. ill have to keep the nits till i get a 12bolt though.. just hoping that 4400 would have more top end, which it dang sure seems like <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

oh and im sick of M6's hanging from rolls <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

WILWAXU

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000LS1Z28:
<strong>..and it is superior from a roll as compared to the Vig 3600. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah.. HD Already knows that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Stick with the 4400 if your going to stay stock internals.

kent

98TAauto---Glad to see you sticking with the Nitto's. Ran a 11.72 with a 1.630 on 3200 vig. on Nitto's. Maybe there is more........... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Thanks for your help in hooking up on the Nittos. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kent:
<strong>98TAauto---Glad to see you sticking with the Nitto's. Ran a 11.72 with a 1.630 on 3200 vig. on Nitto's. Maybe there is more........... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Thanks for your help in hooking up on the Nittos. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WOAHHH ... congrats Kent.. yeah im sticking with the nits.. everyones on et streets so i gotta be a little different <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

another question guys... whats the difference in the YTP4400 and the YTPE4400?? i know ones for n20 use also, but i dont see what the difference in the 2 are?

<small>[ April 08, 2002, 11:20 PM: Message edited by: 98TAauto ]</small>

98TAauto

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just looking into some info on one.. the vig seems to slack from a roll

ran one 4400 a while ago and got my butt handed to me from a 60roll(im sure he will post in a few)

but would it be worth the money to switch from the 3600vig to a 4400PT? ET wise?? 1-2 tenths add up now.. only thing is i will be on 3.23's so will the 4400PT be alot looser?

plus ill be running nittos still so could i expect the same 60's as with the 3600vig or better if i can hook.. i know the vigs good for mid 1.5's on et streets, but im a nittos person untill i get 12bolt..

if anyone has switched from these 2, please post your et's with each... im only trapping 112.6 with the vig(see sig) and i would hope to trap 114 with the yank...

let me know what ya'll think <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

WILWAXU

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The "E" stands for extreme. That converter is mostly for larger motor cars, or "extreme" setups. It has 6 mounting lugs.

For the size N20 setup you have, the TP-4400 will work... if you plan to squeeze alot more.. then may want to look at a TP or ST-4000.

Of course you know.. the PY3400E & PY3600E are disigned for heavy N20 use.. but for the level (size) kit you use... the other converters will work.

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WILWAXU:
<strong>The "E" stands for extreme. That converter is mostly for larger motor cars, or "extreme" setups. It has 6 mounting lugs.

For the size N20 setup you have, the TP-4400 will work... if you plan to squeeze alot more.. then may want to look at a TP or ST-4000.

Of course you know.. the PY3400E & PY3600E are disigned for heavy N20 use.. but for the level (size) kit you use... the other converters will work.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks for the info

B18B1LS1

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong>Harold, when I drove your car, I remember thinking that your Vig 3600 wasn't much looser than my ST 3500. The YTP 4400 is noticably more loose than a ST 3500. You'll definitely use 200 - 400 more rpms around town.

From a roll it is awesome. Remember driving my ST 3500? The YTP 4400 blows it away from a roll. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

ET wise .2 is the max you can hope for and I'm not sure you'll see it on nittos.

More than a 100 shot is a lost cause on the YTP 4400. A YTP 4000 would be a better balance between NA from a roll and spraying.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So a YTP 4400 WOULD hold a 100 shot dry?

Jeff

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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I HIGHLY recommend the PT4400! I swapped to this converter last week from a Vig 3200, and the power from a roll is friggin' unbelievable! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> The top-end pull is amazing, and I only dropped to 5,600 RPM on the shifts with my 6,200 shift points and stock cam. I hope to have my PCM back from Ed Wright this Friday so that I can try out the new cam and converter Saturday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Mid-11's should be in the bag with max traction in spring weather. <img border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> You might do a search for my post from the converter swap last week. It might help you get a better idea of what to expect for streetability.

WILWAXU

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by B18B1LS1:
<strong>So a YTP 4400 WOULD hold a 100 shot dry?

Jeff</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes. The converter will hold it.. it just going to rev to the moon. On a car with aftermarket valvetrain that isn't as big of an issue..

A freinds car went 10.48 with a TP-4400 & 3.73's on a H/C car.