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1nastyss Aug 14, 2006 04:53 PM

Power loss with 4:10's ???
 
I just put 4:10's in my T56 SS, not like it matters, but would i see a difference on the dyno, if so , how much is the norm

1nastyss Aug 15, 2006 12:45 AM

anybody.......

1slowls1 Aug 15, 2006 02:15 AM

I would say maybe +/- 10 hp loss, but your peak power will arrive quicker.

Cap'n Pete Aug 15, 2006 06:21 AM

I've heard this debated a number of times, and I still think it's more of a myth:rolleyes:.

FWIW, I dyno'd my car ('02 Z28 in sig) with an A4 and 4.10 gears, and it put 289 HP / 307 TQ at the wheels. Well if you do the math, that shows about an ~18% loss off of 350 flywheel HP. Sounds reasonable for an auto, eh?;) I'm not convinced it would dyno and higher with the factory 2.73 gears.

Now that I put the 6-speed in the car (sorry, sig isn't updated yet) I would expect to see around ~310 HP at the wheels (about a ~12% loss). But again, I wouldn't expect to see very different #'s whether I dyno'd it with the 3.23's that are currently in there, or 4.10's :cool:.

Unless somebody can post before & after evidence of this, I wave the BS flag:judge:.

oange ss Aug 15, 2006 02:53 PM

you will see a loss on the dyno...tests in dyno section

1BadAzzWS6 Aug 15, 2006 03:03 PM

Blah, who cares about the dyno #'s.

IMO the 4.10's really wake the car up and deliver the power much earlier. You'll sacrifice a bit on the top end, but it's worth it.

Cap'n Pete Aug 16, 2006 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by oange ss
you will see a loss on the dyno...tests in dyno section

Link?? :confused:

davered00ss Aug 16, 2006 08:44 AM

I did not do a before after on the 4.10's, but I did add an LS6 intake manifold at the same time and dyno's the same as before. So I'm guessing the 4.10's cancled out the intake. So that makes me guess the rwhp loss is 10rwhp +/-

davered00ss Aug 16, 2006 08:45 AM

Oh yeah, I also did the spec stage 3F clutch & billet steel flywheel at the same time.

blue02formula Aug 16, 2006 09:30 AM

It's worth any loss IMO.

davered00ss Aug 16, 2006 09:36 AM

Depends on what you use the car for.

2000TransAmWS6 Aug 16, 2006 10:01 AM

4.10s will probably lose you 5-10 rwhp, but by seat of the pants it will feel like you've picked up 15-20.

thunderdan74 Aug 16, 2006 04:50 PM

I calculate a 100% loss in HP to the wheels when you break the 10 bolt!

2001z Aug 16, 2006 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by thunderdan74
I calculate a 100% loss in HP to the wheels when you break the 10 bolt!

:jest: :jest:

1nastyss Aug 16, 2006 09:44 PM

I hear ya.....I know its just a matter of time, to tell you the truth, ill probably break the damn thing on the street....Then it will time for a 12 bolt, or 9 in.

CW00BlackTA Aug 16, 2006 09:51 PM

It's a moot point. The gears are one of the best things you can do to improve your performance--by multiplying torque. The horsepower issue doens't mean anything except for dyno comparisons.


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