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Old 07-16-2009, 04:09 AM
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So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

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Old 07-16-2009, 04:37 AM
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No, the V8 5th gens are running near what the stock LS1s did, in good air they may go a bit faster. Your not taking in to acount the weight difference between the 4th gen and 5th gen.
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V6 is actually putting out around 260 or so to the wheels. Torque is what makes up for the whole thing.

Many races are decided within the first 60' and if you are near the same peak output as your opponent, both equally capable drivers and you are lacking the torque that they may have, you're pretty much getting a good view of their taillights.
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I thought the same when i heard the numbers months ago, more like the V8 mustang loosing against a new V6 camaro, lol.
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

Just thought I would spark a debate

LS1 Fbodies made 345hp/375ft.lbs in a ~3500lbs car, the new Camaro has 304hp/273ft.lbs in a 3800lbs car, you can do the math...
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG

LS1 Fbodies made 345hp/375ft.lbs in a ~3500lbs car, the new Camaro has 304hp/273ft.lbs in a 3800lbs car, you can do the math...
Thank you for adding some reality to this thread.
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It is more likely that the new V6 Camaro and a stock LT1 f-body would run close but I still might give the edge to the LT1.
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Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.
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Originally Posted by street demon2k3
Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.
A car trapping 94 MPH pulled a few cars on a 2001 Mustang GT. Right.
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It was a stock GT with 3 200lbs passengers LOL!!!! Yes I know doesnt make sense, I thought he'd put at least 2 cars on me but IDK. Could have been a bad driver, it was a 5-speed and had some gangsta 20's on there.
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We have a shitty track in clarksville TN and last friday my buddy took his rental up there and with about 200miles on it went 9.7. not sure the mph since its a shitty track.. but to give ya an idea of how it does our other buddy was there and has an 03 mustang GT, headers/intake and the camaro walked away from him on the track and the street. From a roll or a dig the GT stayed with it till about the top of 2nd then the camaro would pull away...

To give you an idea of how shitty the track is our rental LS3 C6 would only run a best of 7.8...
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Originally Posted by street demon2k3
Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.
Thanks, that is what I was wanting to know...what kind of times they were running....14.9 is about what my 2000 silverado pickup ran stock!!...haha
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just as a comparison, back in the day, my '94 Z28 ran a 14.1@96 bone stock and 13.9@99 with an intake and catback, with a 3.23 auto, rated at 275/325... and LS1's made 305-310/335-340 in an F body...
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
Thanks, that is what I was wanting to know...what kind of times they were running....14.9 is about what my 2000 silverado pickup ran stock!!...haha
You didn't think to check some auto mags? I've seen lowest of 14.2 @ ~98mph.
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Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

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I can't wait to see what the aftermarket for this car is like...plenty major companies are really interested in modding the V6. It without a doubt will be a big seller and plenty of people will want to mod it.

Originally Posted by Quick Sh0t xMLx
Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.
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Originally Posted by Quick Sh0t xMLx
Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.
hahaha That's all f***** up... but true.. I'm impressed with the 2SS in a rolling race and they are decent in a slalom.. But they don't have power to weight ratio for a drag. Gut it out and push the LS3 to 600+rwhp and then it will hand more than a few of us our asses in the quarter. I'm wondering if it's IRS suspension might be hurting the 2SS drag performance.
A 2SS WILL get an ugly guy laid though....
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Originally Posted by Quick Sh0t xMLx
Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.
Just remember kids, real car enthusiasts enjoy cars that perform well and retain respect towards trends that may not be in their personal tastes, ricer **** aside.

You're a tool.

Edit: besides, you should probably bring more than just a c5 on juice if you're going to start the **** talking.
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The new Camaro is a the new LED SLED!

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