The world would come to a screeching end if the Z/28 got a high revving 5.3 wouldn't it? I think the original theory was that the different models are there for different purposes. Not necessarily a hierarchy.

The SS guys cry top dog, the Z28 guys cry top dog.:givesfuck. Alot of people put SS apearance shit on thier Z's. Do you ever hear of an SS owner wanting to put a Z28 hood and spoiler on thier car? If so not many.:confused: What ever the beast will be I will probably own one. It will sit right next to my SS. You guys worry and bicker too much!!!:D

There were only a few thousand 1st gen Z28's made for each year. They were not GM's bread and butter of the camaro line at that time. Compared to all 1st gen sales, Z28's were very low production numbers.

Nope, they had a high rpm 302.:nod:

You're still talking about 4th gen only. You aren't listening, the hood you keep talking about was introduced as a Z28 hood. Alot of 4th gen guys put SS parts on their Z28s, before that the SS didn't have the special hood and spoiler that made in an SS. That's the whole point here and you're missing it.

What does that prove? The base model has ALWAYS been the bread and butter. There are always less made of the higher model. Just like the later models where the V6s have higher production models than the V8s. There will be less ZR1 C6s sold than any other vette. The Z28 was top dog of the first gen, arguing any different is simply uneducated. Just like the guys above had said, talk to old guys who were in the know and they will laugh at the thought that the SS was #1

I am sure they will "laugh" at a SS 396......whatever guy:(

The cars sold to the public made 290 hp, only the road race cars had a little over 400 hp. A Z28 would get it's ass kicked on the strip or street by a SS 396.:D

Agree 100% with the first post. The 302 was the best engine...its was the racing engine. The 302, suspension, brakes, etc on the Z/28 were designed for track use. The SS was not a track car...it was a poser car that could be turned into a drag car. But, the Z/28 could do both drag and track. And, the high revving 302 was a 327 block with a 283 crank.

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Do you have proof of that...?? Every thing I've ever seen regarding the Z28 302 says the 290hp rating as not correct.

Do I have proof?...hahahaha yeah, read Jerry Macneish's 1967-1968 Z28 fact book. :D

Stop reading the books and quoting facts and you'll stop being wrong ;) The 302 was not a 290hp engine, and is the most infamous engine of the day for a reason. You're arguing something that you simply do not know about. The Z28 was just plain built to race, the SS was not

my dad had a 1st gen SS and said that Z28's were the faster/better model, i just asked him cause hes into cars too, but whatever i wouldnt mind owning either one

They were 290 off the line. But wasn't that before you looked in the trunk and found the new intake and exhaust manifolds that they couldn't install for insurance purposes?

in case the original troll-er i mean poster missed that :secret2:

WRONG WRONG WRONG.......on the 1st gen cars you could have a base model with the Z28 option which was ONLY HD suspension, 302 engine, Disc brakes (front only), Posi, and 4 sp trans.......NO special interior NO cowl hood (it was an option) NO rear spoiler (option too). I have personally driven a 1967 Z28 without cowl hood and the base interior, it looked like a 6 cylinder car there weren't even emblems the on the first run cars. The Z28 was originally to go TransAm racing so it required special equipment like the 302. Z28 are not second dog to the SS and the SS isn't second dog to the Z28. The SS and Z28 in the hierarchy of models in the 1st and early years of 2nd gens were on equal footing. If you wanted to go fast around a road course or wanted to go TransAm racing you bought the Z28, if you wanted a Big Block you had to get the SS (execpt for the rare COPOs). You guys do know what Z28 stands for right???? it is the option code for the original package like the SS's option code for the SS in a Chevelle was Z16. If you had the desire you could in 67 - 69 go down to Chevy dealer get a SS350 Camaro with the HD suspension (F41), Posi, select a 4 sp trans, Disc brakes (you could even get J8 4 wheel discs) and with careful selection of rear gears, then run it down to the local road course and teach a Z the fast way around the track (torque is a wonderful thing). So Scoggins put your elitism away.

Chevy used the same blocks for the 302, 327 and 350. The 302 was not a very good drag engine due to it's lack of torque. It's place was more quick revving high rpm road racing.:nod:

I'm not sure what your point was, other than neither one was "top dog" because they had different purposes, which I could be inclined to accept as a good way to put it. The Z28 was built to race you said it yourself. The SS had a big block and nothing else special about it. I never said either one was automatically a nice car, that's what both of them had options and the RS option for, and no one mentioned a special interior, hood, or anything of the sort. You're even throwing in ordering a car with special options to make something custom that wasn't a Z28 or SS, what does that have to do with anything? It's not elitism, it's reality. The Z28 was built to perform, and in factory form was a greater option than SS

I by no means want to get into this argument, but just wanted to point out that the cowl hood wasnt available till 69. I believe all 69 Z28s came standard with cowl hood and it was optional on SS cars.

The 302 Z/28 was the C6Z if its day.

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