Another RPO question
 

I've searched on this and asked around and the more I seem to find about the codes the more confused I am. I just picked up a '99 Z28 with zero options. Hardtop, manual windows, manual locks, manual windows, no rear defrost, manual cloth interior, no traction control, no foglights etc. It has AC and the Monsoon CD player but that's it.

I ran all of the codes on the door and everything seems spot on, as it doesn't list an RPO for anything power, but my question comes from code 1SD, "option package 04".

From what I've read the stripper cars should be 1SC, option package 03, and from what little I've found on here about what 1SD consists of (and finding a thread where someone lists out what comes in it) they're fully loaded (power everything, leather, etc.). I looked at dlove's car last night which came with power and it was a 1SD.

Before someone asks, I've checked the VIN on the RPO sticker against the dash and other things and it's the same.

Is it not totally uncommon to have a 1SD code on a stripper car or is there a misprint on the sticker or what? Thanks in advance guys.

Link to big picture of RPO sticker

It's not a B4C car is it?


FYI: I can't see the RPO codes cause these damn government filters blocked the host site

no, it's not

It's not a B4C.

Rehosted picture for those who can't see tinypic

Weird:confused:

Mine is the same, all the same options as you, except I have rear window defrost, but I have the 1SD instead of the 1SC, I was looking into this the other day, but couldn't find anything on it either, I will continue to look and if I find anything I will post it up here

Thanks man. My friend at the dealership wasn't able to find hardly anything about my car from the VIN (he was going to get me a copy of the original build sheet) but he said it's not totally uncommon for older cars now. Sure doesn't feel old but I guess it's 9 years old already.

I've tried my local dealership, those guys are idiots, but I will keep trying to find something on the web

This is what one person on LS1.com has listed for 1SD, but I don't have any of this stuff: 1SD - PREFERRED EQUIPMENT GROUP INCLUDES: * ELEC SPEED CONTROL W/RESUME * REMOTE HATCH RELEASE * FOG LAMPS * POWER DOOR LOCK SYSTEM * POWER WINDOWS * MIRROR TWIN REMOTE ELECTRIC * LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL W/RADIO CONTROLS * REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY * THEFT DETERRENT ALARM SYSTEM * BODYSIDE MOLDINGS * POWER DRIVER SEAT (6 WAY) 1SZ - PREFERRED EQUIPMENT SAVINGS

Another website says: Optional Equipment
Major Packages

Retail Price

Invoice Price
Preferred Equipment Group 1SB
Base hatchback

$1,170

$1,041
Cruise control, remote hatch release, power mirrors and windows, power door locks, remote keyless entry, theft-deterrent system w/alarm, fog lights.
Preferred Equipment Group 1SD
Z28 hatchback

$1,715

$1,526
Pkg. 1SB plus 6-way power driver seat, leather-wrapped steering wheel w/radio controls, rear floormats, bodyside moldings.

Sorry for so many posts, but once again, on cars.com nonetheless, click the link, then beside the 1SD option list is a little question mark "?" click it and it lists the full package list, but once again, I have none of this.

http://www.cars.com/go/crp/research....=&aff=national

I found a few other places that mention that 1SD is the power options group, but I have power nothing, so I don't have a clue what is wrong or messed up or what. If anyone else finds anything let me know

Exactly. I found a post (I can try to find it again and quote it if need be) that said it was the standard equipment of 1SB plus (insert everything from a fully loaded car), plus other posts from members saying that their 1SD cars had every option imaginable.

I searched 1SD stripper and this was the only thing that came up. :P

then I came across this:

I posted it up on another f-body site and haven't had any replies yet, but it is much smaller than ls1tech so I don't expect many answer until tomorrow. I may try another dealer in a few days to see what they have on it, or may try contacting GM directly somehow.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one wondering about this. I'd be curious to see how many other "1SD stripper" cars there are out there.

Anyone? I posted it on a local site too but to no avail.

VIN: 2G1FP22G3X2124602
VIN Decode
2:CANADIAN BUILT
G:GENERAL MOTORS, GENASYS L.C.
1:CHEVROLET
FP:CAMARO SPORT COUPE & CONV.
2:TWO-DOOR (07,08,77,87)
2:ACTIVE (MANUAL) BELTS W/DRIVER & PASSENGER INFLATABLE RESTRAINT SYSTEM (FRONTAL)
G:ENG OPT - LS1 DISP - 5.7L CYL - V8 FUEL SYS - MFI DIV - 1,2 PROD IN - U.S.
3:CHECK DIGIT
X:1999 MODEL YEAR
2:MORAINE (T&B) OH
2:STE THERESE PQ
124602: PRODUCTION SEQUENCE


VIN: 2G1FP22G3X2124602
RPO Codes
13U = EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY (13U)
14B = TRIM COMBINATION - CLOTH, GRAY (14B)
14I = INTERIOR TRIM LT GRAY (14I)
1AY = DEALER STOCK ORDER
1SD = PACKAGE-OPTION 04 (1SD)
1SZ = PACKAGE OPTION- (1SZ)
6ZK = COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (6ZK) SUSP(6ZK)
7ZK = COMPONENT FRT RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (7ZK) SUSP(7ZK)
8TH = COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8TH) SUSP(8TH)
9TH = COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9TH) SUSP(9TH)
AH3 = ADJUSTABLE 4 WAY MANUAL SEAT
AK5 = RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT,INFLATABLE PASS SI INFL RST SYS(AK5)
AR9 = SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9)
C60 = AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60)
D35 = MIRROR,O/S LH REM RH DIRECT CTL,PAINTED PAINTED O/S MIR(D35)
DL5 = DECAL ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION ROADSIDE SERVICE INFO DECAL(DL5)
FE2 = SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2)
FE9 = FEDERAL EMISSION CERTIFICATION FED EMIS(FE9)
G80 = AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP
GU6 = AXLE,REAR,3.42 RATIO 3.42R(GU6)
IPB = TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPB)
J65 = BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65)
K43 = GENERATOR 102 AMP 102 AMP(K43)
LS1 = ENGINE GAS, 8 CYL, 5.7L, SFI, ALUMINUM ENGINE 5.7G(LS1)
MM6 = TRANSMISSION MAN 6 SPD, BORG WARNER, 85MM, 1ST 2.66, 6TH 0.50, O/D 6-SPD M/TRANS(MM6)
MN6 = TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC(MERCHANDISING OPTION) A/TRANS(MX1)
N96 = WHEEL,16X8(CAST ALUMINUM) AL WHL(N96)
NF2 = EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL,TIER 1 FED EMIS SYS(NF2)
NK3 = STEERING WHEEL,SPORT,SOFT RIM,SIMULATED LEATHER SIMULATED LEATHER STRG WHL(NK3)
QCB = TIRE ALL P235/55R16 BW R/PE ST TL AL2 96T TIRE(QCB)
R9W = CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 97
STE = PLANT CODE- ST THERESE, PQ, GM OF CANADA ST THERESE,GM OF CANADA PLANT CODE(STE)
T82 = HEADLAMPS,AUTOMATIC ON/OFF CONTROL AUTO HDLP CONT(T82)
U73 = ANTENNA,FIXED FIXED ANT(U73)
UB3 = CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER) GA(UB3)
UN0 = RADIO,AM/FM,STEREO,SEEK/SCAN,COMPACT DISC,AUTO TONE,CLOCK,ETR STEREO W/CD PLAYER(UN0)
UZ7 = SPEAKER SYSTEM 8, QUAD FRT DR MTD, DUAL SAIL PNL, DUAL RR HATCH, AMPLIFIER 8 SPKR SYS(UZ7)
V73 = VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)
VK3 = LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3)
VM3 = LABEL INFORMATION CONSUMER, CONTAINS BPR IMP STANDARD FOR FRT 5 MPH & RR 5 MPH 5 MPH BUMPER INFO LABEL(VM3)
Z28 = PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,SPECIAL PERF PKG(Z28)

What used to happen I believe is that the car started with 1SD but some other RPO's removed features from that marketing package. In your case, AH3, AR9, D35 made some things manual. When a certain group is triggered to change, other parts do as well. There is no clear definition of 1SZ that I can find, this may also play into the specific build. I have access to some good systems and for vehicles this vintage, its hard to find all of the data.

Awesome man! So is it (I'm guessing) much more uncommon for a 1SD car to end up with zero options than for someone to just order up a 1SC stripper? cochran in this thread is the only other person I've found who has the same thing so far.

'99 still seems so *new* to me and you're calling it vintage, hard to believe it's already a 9-year old car. :)

Its hard to tell how uncommon. The dealer order it for their stock, maybe they just wanted a Camaro on the lot that cost a grand or so less to bring in new customers. PM me your email address, I have a nice PDF file for the 1999 Camaro that is the media guide.

PM sent. And that's a good point, it does have the code saying it was just a stock order and not a special order for a customer.

It just seems odd to me that they would go to all the trouble of ordering a car with the 1SB and 1SD option group just to have all of the electronic stuff taken off. It seems like it would have been cheaper for the dealer to order an 1SC car. On a side note, are there many if any 1SC 1LE cars? Seems like they would have been the ultimate track car.

The other possibility that I was thinking about was, the car could have been stolen or heavily damaged and the doors removed and replaced my the manual doors. Did you ever do a carfax report to see if that was a possibility? The corners are peeled back on the SPID label. It is a very odd combination. There seems to paint overspray on the sticker and the seal.

I checked mine out and everything is as it should be, but still have no power options except rear defroster. Here is my RPO list, sorry it is so long.

AH3 : ADJUSTER, 4-WAY MANUAL, DRIVER SEAT
AK5 : RESTRAINT SYSTEM, FRT SEAT, INFLATABLE, DRIVER
AR9 : SEAT, FRT BKT, EUROPEAN STYLE, PASS A DRIVER RECL
C49 : DEFOGGER, RR WINDOW, ELECTRIC
C60 : HVAC SYSTEM, AIR CONDITIONER FRT MAN CONTROLS
DL5 : DECAL, ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION
D35 : MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW
FE3 : SUSPENSION SYSTEM, SPORT
GU6 : AXLE REAR, 3.42 RATIO
G80 : AXLE POSITRACTION, LIMITED SLIP
IPB : ?????????????????????????????????
J65 : BRAKE SYSTEM, PWR, FRT & RR DISC
K43 : ?????????????????????????????????
LS1 : 5.7L GEN III V8 ENGINE
MM6 : TRANSMISSION, MAN 6 SPD, BORG WARNER
MN6 : MERCHANDISED TRANS, MAN 6 SPD PROVISIONS
NB7 : ?????????????????????????????????
NGZ : ????????????????????????????????
NK3 : STEERING WHEEL, SPORT, SOFT RIM, SIMULATED LEATHER
N96 : WHEEL, 16 X 8, CAST ALUMINUM
QLC : TIRE ALL, P245/50ZR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4
R7A: ?????????????????????????????????
R8T : CONTROL, SALES ITEM NO. 69 PROCESSING OPTION
R9Z : ?????????????????????????????????
STE : ?????????????????????????????????
T82 : HEADLAMPS, AUTO ON-OFF CONT
UB3 : CLUSTER, INST, OIL, COOL TEMP, VOLTS, TRIP ODOM, TACH
UN0 : RADIO, AM/FM STEREO, SEEK/SCAN, CD, AUTO TONE, CLOCK AND ETR (RADIO WILL NOT SNAP FIT INTO I/P – NO ATTACHING FASTENERS)
UZ7 : ?????????????????????????????????
U73 : ANTENNA, FIXED, RADIO
VK3 : LICENSE PLATE, FRT MOUNTING PKG
VL7 : ?????????????????????????????????
Z28 : MERCHANDISED PKG, SPECIAL PERFORMANCE
1AZ : ?????????????????????????????????
1SD : OPTION PACKAGE 04
1SZ : ?????????????????????????????????
14B : TRIM COMBINATION, CLOTH, LT GRAY (B) (92)
141 : ?????????????????????????????????
41U : PRIMARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, BLACK
6ZL : ?????????????????????????????????
7ZL : ?????????????????????????????????
8TJ : ?????????????????????????????????
9TJ : ????????????????????????????????

Check out 69LT1Bird's post, it lists what most of your ???'s are. K43 for example is the 102amp alternator.

Thanks, this was from a while back, couldn't find my new list, thanks though.

I just hit camarosource.ca just to see if it would tell you what the 1SZ option is. All it comes back with is discount option code.
Here's the link I used.
http://www.camarosource.ca/php/camar...year=2002&tm=1

Little off topic, but can you friend me a copy of my build sheet? I posted a topic in this same section b/c i want to have one for my records?

let me know

69LT1Bird might be able to help you out if you want to PM him (he's posted a few times in this thread), if not I can see if my local guy can do something. :)

PM me your VIN