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Old 09-08-2010, 01:10 PM
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For almost a year, I've been searching for this "ting ting" sound or something that sounds like you dropped a handful of coins. It happens when the car hits bumps or goes over inclines too fast. All from the front end. I thought it was the clips that hold some cover under the motor, which I don't have, bouncing around so I put tape on them and the noise continued. I changed sway bar endlinks, shortened my endlinks, tightened bolts, and took everything out the car to see if the noise went away, no luck. I also put new Moog ball joints, Moog inner and outer tie rods, Moog upper and lower control arm bushings, Moog sway bar endlinks, and new steering rack (old one was leaking again). Still no luck.
I had to change out my steering rack again (replaced Jan 2010). I had a shop do it the first time but this time I decided to do it. The shop didn't flip the bolt so it would drop down instead of removing from the top, so I had to slide the bolt/pin out the driver's side motor mount and take out the alternator. I have the truck alternator and the back of it is much bigger than stock. I also unbolted the passenger motor mount because it still wouldn't go high enough. Anyway, I looked at the motor mounts and the rubber was split and would move around inside the clambshell. I bought new GM motor mounts and a 1LE transmission mount months ago and put them in.







The noise is finally gone! I bet the metal around the rubber was hitting the clambshell causing that noise. Oddly enough, I didn't have any symptoms of a bad motor mount or transmission mount but the car took a huge drivetrain shock at WOT. The car feels so much tighter now and it also lifted my true duals up some which gives me about 1/2" more of ground clearance. What would cause this to happen?
Old 09-08-2010, 06:12 PM
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Did you buy the car new? If not it looks like someone had a hellof a good time with this car to cause that much damage to the engine mounts. I bought a low mileage 99 ta that had basicly the same thing and i found out later it was raced at the drag strip a few times.
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That is pretty normal looking. I have not had one that didn't have mounts look like that. The A4 usually has a decent trans mount on it, but the motor mounts just don't age well.
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When I did my cam swap I put in solid mm and a poly trans mount. My friend drove my car over to his garage and mentioned that the cars trans mount was probably messed up. I never noticed any symptoms but it turned out to be ripped in half.

My car has roughly 50k miles and not beaten on too hard. My guess... GM used cheap **** in our cars and thats why it broke!
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Originally Posted by shiv15
When I did my cam swap I put in solid mm and a poly trans mount. My friend drove my car over to his garage and mentioned that the cars trans mount was probably messed up. I never noticed any symptoms but it turned out to be ripped in half.

My car has roughly 50k miles and not beaten on too hard. My guess... GM used cheap **** in our cars and thats why it broke!
It seems like lots of vehicles that tend to see more stresses (sports cars, trucks, jeeps and such) have problems with rubber mounts. They are probably designed for smooth and quiet operation, not longevity and performance. This is great on family sedans but just winds up with busted mounts on most everything else.
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Did you try to find the stock non 1le mount? I couldn't! I'm going to order the 1le one also and get rid of my poly.
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Originally Posted by CJDZ24_Z28
Did you try to find the stock non 1le mount? I couldn't! I'm going to order the 1le one also and get rid of my poly.
The dealer I used from my job is called Henna Chevrolet out of Austin, TX. They had the non 1le and the 1le. The 1le is just a hunk of solid rubber which seems to hold up better. My shifter feels weird now because it's smooth and goes into gear easily. I bought the car with 50k miles on it and now I'm just over 90k... I'm sure I did the damage. That trans mount I have in the picture will rip apart within a few WOT shifts. It all makes sense now. When I got my car back from SNL, I had a new trans and trans mount put in. After that break in period, a couple shifts would chirp the tires. Then, a week later it was back to making the drivetrain shock when shifted hard. I have a torque arm relo kit with a 12 bolt waiting to go in so hopefully that will take care of all this mess.
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yup, thats what mine looked like too. Poly's FTW
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Originally Posted by zachrywd_01TA
yup, thats what mine looked like too. Poly's FTW
I had a poly trans mount for 30 minutes and went back to stock. The vibration killed me. I can imagine the poly motor mounts would be the same way.
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poly is NOT that bad ......
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Thanks for posting your solution. I seem to have the same problem, just started not too long ago. This gives me something to look at. Hopefully this is it.
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The new 1le trans mount and new gm motor mounts stopped my monster clutch from squealing.Also made the engagement point right at the top of the pedal. Car feels alot different now.
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Originally Posted by Ryanmgaspard
I had a poly trans mount for 30 minutes and went back to stock. The vibration killed me. I can imagine the poly motor mounts would be the same way.
A poly trans mount does vibe for about the first week, it then softens up. I will never go back to a rubber trans mount, after feeling the difference poly mounts (once softened up) made in both my 97 and 01..

I'm waiting to do some poly motor mounts though, I'm not looking forward to the install.



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