rpm's drop when put into gear
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rpm's drop when put into gear
i have 1998 Z28 automatic. the car idles at about 800-900 rpm. but when i put it into gear the rpms drop real low to 400-500 causing the car to almost die, sometimes it does. then the rpm's go right back to 900. but when the car is warmed up it doesnt do this. im thinking a vacuum leak but hell if i can find it. any thoughts?
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SWAG... I'd suspect IAC actuator, but before replacing it, I'd take the IAC off of the throttle body and make sure the air bleed passages are clear. I'm pretty sure LS1 has a IAC actuator anyway.
When I managed a shop, we used to get a lot of GM vehicles with similar issues, often pulling the IAC and intake tube off of the throttle body and cleaning the orifices with throttle body cleaner would fix the issues.
As I remember it, the engine computer controls the idle by bleeding a variable amount of air past the throttle plate. If the orifices/passages get clogged with carbon then the engine computer will have trouble controlling the idle.
When the engine is cold the computer will have a harder time controlling the idle since the engine doesn't run quite as well until it warms up. Putting the transmission into gear adds load to the engine, and drags it down a bit. The computer should compensate for this, but apparently isn't for some reason.
Just a guess, hopefully you get it figured out soon!
Disclaimer: I don't currently have an F-body and its been a few years since I used to work in a shop, so the information may be inaccurate, incomplete, incomprehensible or otherwise completely wrong.
When I managed a shop, we used to get a lot of GM vehicles with similar issues, often pulling the IAC and intake tube off of the throttle body and cleaning the orifices with throttle body cleaner would fix the issues.
As I remember it, the engine computer controls the idle by bleeding a variable amount of air past the throttle plate. If the orifices/passages get clogged with carbon then the engine computer will have trouble controlling the idle.
When the engine is cold the computer will have a harder time controlling the idle since the engine doesn't run quite as well until it warms up. Putting the transmission into gear adds load to the engine, and drags it down a bit. The computer should compensate for this, but apparently isn't for some reason.
Just a guess, hopefully you get it figured out soon!
Disclaimer: I don't currently have an F-body and its been a few years since I used to work in a shop, so the information may be inaccurate, incomplete, incomprehensible or otherwise completely wrong.
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I assume you've tried the carb cleaner method to locate vacuum leaks. (let the engine idle and spray suspect areas around the intake/vacuum hoses and listen for change in idle)
Just a brainstorm, is your IAT sensor good (do you have a scan tool capable of looking at the data stream) Probably obvious, but I'm just trying to think what would be different from cold to warm engine. Also if you can look at the data stream, your IAC counts should ideally be in the 20-40 range (if memory serves) more than that and it can point to possible issues.
Thinking out loud...Cold engine should be in open loop mode, so O2s shouldn't be suspect, MAP sensor maybe?
You've probably already been through all this and I'll keep trying to think, but unfortunately its been a few years since my last F-body.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will stop by and share their wisdom.
Just a brainstorm, is your IAT sensor good (do you have a scan tool capable of looking at the data stream) Probably obvious, but I'm just trying to think what would be different from cold to warm engine. Also if you can look at the data stream, your IAC counts should ideally be in the 20-40 range (if memory serves) more than that and it can point to possible issues.
Thinking out loud...Cold engine should be in open loop mode, so O2s shouldn't be suspect, MAP sensor maybe?
You've probably already been through all this and I'll keep trying to think, but unfortunately its been a few years since my last F-body.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will stop by and share their wisdom.
Last edited by Esoteric[TG]; 10-10-2010 at 12:06 AM. Reason: Had another idea...
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I got a 98 as well. Mine was doing just as you descripe but not all the time. I later found out it was actually my battery on its way out. One day. The car wouldnt start put a new battery in and haven't had the problem since. In my experience dying bateries do make a car act strange.
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the battery is about a year old. give or take a few months.
car was tuned on memorial day friday. but it just started doing this about 2 months ago
car was tuned on memorial day friday. but it just started doing this about 2 months ago