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Old 03-31-2012, 11:49 AM
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I have had a plug foul and know those symptoms. I also had a bad plug wire and know that symptom as well. This is different. I went ahead and replaced all plugs and wires and it is still missing. I can smell the gas but cant identify the missing cylinder(s). Should I change the coils? Appreciate any advice.
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Coil?
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Coil...coil pack..coils
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anyone else?
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Fuel filter/pump/injectors
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I had an extreme Mia fire anytime I gave the car throttle and it turned out to be the intake air temperature sensor
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Lazy 02 sensor.
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I just unplugged the coils 1 by 1 and verified spark @ all cylinders. I did replace the o2 sensors a while back. They were too short so I made them longer. Possible my handy work didnt hold up?
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Well after some more checking...the back 2 cylinders on each side are dead so i only have the front 4 firing.....any ideas?
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fuel pressure is good, coils, plugs, wires, injectors......any ideas?
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With new plugs and new wires....as long as you know the wires are snapped on tight...........most likely you have 2 bad coils. I would swap them with two of the front 4 to make sure though, see if the problem follows the coils.

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well,...figured it out. #6 broken intake valve spring
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Seems that would've made a wickedly awful sound.
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You would think...but there was no valve train noise. The spring was broken..but it wasn't coming apart.
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I had 8 broken springs and the engine ran 100% perfect and 100% silent. I took my heads off to have new valve seals put in and thats when we saw them all........good thing I had double springs.

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That'll do it.
I repaired a vehicle a guy brought me. He took to a performance shop to to have h/c intake install. The car was dead on 2 cylinders.
The shop tried to fix. They gave up on it. Left the guy hi and dry.
Turns out it was the Taylor wires separated from the boots. So no spark. 2 were completely severed on the inside. Others hanging by threads. I guess they yanked em hard enuff to separate them. It took me 20min to figure it out. I just gave him a whole set of stock truck wires I had.
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Originally Posted by LS6427
I had 8 broken springs and the engine ran 100% perfect and 100% silent. I took my heads off to have new valve seals put in and thats when we saw them all........good thing I had double springs.

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Daggum, son!
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Originally Posted by LS6427
I had 8 broken springs and the engine ran 100% perfect and 100% silent. I took my heads off to have new valve seals put in and thats when we saw them all........good thing I had double springs.

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did you damage any pistons?
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Originally Posted by LS6427
I had 8 broken springs and the engine ran 100% perfect and 100% silent. I took my heads off to have new valve seals put in and thats when we saw them all........good thing I had double springs.

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you said 8 broken valve springs but i can only see 1 or 2 in the pictures

making me paranoid i have 20k miles on my patriots now
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Originally Posted by jarheadtex
did you damage any pistons?
No, engine was running perfect. Pistons are fine. I was getting puffs of white smoke when I nailed it from a 50mph roll. So we knew the valve seals were bad. They were all bad. Some so bad the valves fell right out from gravity.....lol

Here's what bad valve seals, from the burning oil, does to the tops of pistons. It causes terrible detonation under very light throttle on hot days because all the burnt oil gets red hot and pre-ignites the fuel-air. After we fixed the valve seals and of course all new springs, retainers and guides.......no more detonation no matter how hot, and no more smoke.

This happened approximately 80,000-90,000 miles ago. Still running like a champ.

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