Small oil leak by oil filter on 97 Firehawk LT1 M6
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Small oil leak by oil filter on 97 Firehawk LT1 M6
I have noticed a small leak coming from the top of the oil filter on my 97 Firehawk LT1 M6. I noticed this last fall where it was pretty bad and spewing out oil. I thought it was the k&n oil filter so I removed it and replaced it with a quaker state one. I made sure before replacing it that there were no stuck filters or debris on the filter housing. I make sure to throughly clean the area and lube up the new oil filter before replacing it. This was done back in November and the car has not been driven since. I had the car jacked up last week to do other work and now noticed there is once again a small leak coming from the oil filter. It has not yet dripped to the ground but it's coming from the top of the filter on the side pointing towards the rear. I have attached some pics I would appreciate any info on this. I will remove the filter again and clean reinstall it but I had already done this last time. I made sure the filter was hand tightened enough.
Last edited by prix57; 07-13-2019 at 02:51 PM.
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May be the oil filter adapter gasket. I got one from the dealer but it's also included in the felpro oil pan gasket kit last I saw. The adapter is held in with 2 tiny bolts that go straight up and are only partially visible with the filter off. When you scrape off the old dried up gasket be careful because the block where it mounts is razor sharp and will slice you up pretty badly.
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FelPro makes the oil filter adapter gasket kit. Under $10 IIRC. You need to remove the oil filter adapter to get to the gasket. That gasket is likely very hard now and can take some effort in scraping off but you may find it just pops off whole once you get under the edge of it
This assumes you don't have the old oil filter O ring gasket stuck in the adapter and then installed a new filter with gasket also
This assumes you don't have the old oil filter O ring gasket stuck in the adapter and then installed a new filter with gasket also
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I have have yet to remove the filter, clean it, lube it again and reinstall.
This has happened actually for me with 2 filters as I recall the AC Delco filter it had on before the K&N had the same issue.
Last edited by prix57; 05-28-2019 at 11:01 AM.
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Gotcha I will order one then.
I found Melling MFA350 Oil Filter Adapter on Rock Auto but it stated "without oil cooler" which is what my Firehawk has. I wonder if having the oil cooler will make a difference or not?
I found Melling MFA350 Oil Filter Adapter on Rock Auto but it stated "without oil cooler" which is what my Firehawk has. I wonder if having the oil cooler will make a difference or not?
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prix57 (04-07-2020)
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I do have a small leak coming from the front since I got the car. I was told one of the front seals are "wet". I cleaned it up to take a quick look and it's either the front main or possibly water pump seal but not 100% sure.
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The leak at oil filter is very likely the oil filter "adapter" seal. As noted check the oil pressure sender by running you hand over it to see if it is leaking but the more common leak like yours is oil filter adapter
FelPro makes a replacement oil filter adapter seal kit and a front timing cover seal gasket set which includes the WP drive seal that are typically available at most auto part stores
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Your front leak is most likely the WP drive seal, fairly common. You would need to remove WP & Opti to access it and use a special "tool" or home made version to install a new one. That seal along with the Opti seal are PTFE seals and must be installed dry, don't oil or grease them.
The leak at oil filter is very likely the oil filter "adapter" seal. As noted check the oil pressure sender by running you hand over it to see if it is leaking but the more common leak like yours is oil filter adapter
FelPro makes a replacement oil filter adapter seal kit and a front timing cover seal gasket set which includes the WP drive seal that are typically available at most auto part stores
The leak at oil filter is very likely the oil filter "adapter" seal. As noted check the oil pressure sender by running you hand over it to see if it is leaking but the more common leak like yours is oil filter adapter
FelPro makes a replacement oil filter adapter seal kit and a front timing cover seal gasket set which includes the WP drive seal that are typically available at most auto part stores
I got this Firehawk in 2017 and the previous owner had the engine professionally rebuilt in 2014 and had 12,000 km's (~7500 miles) put on it since. I find it odd how the front seals would already be leaking (although minor) so quickly.
As per the shop that did the rebuild advised I only use Joe Gibbs Driven Racing Oil HR2 Conventional 10W30.
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I got this Firehawk in 2017 and the previous owner had the engine professionally rebuilt in 2014 and had 12,000 km's (~7500 miles) put on it since. I find it odd how the front seals would already be leaking (although minor) so quickly.
As per the shop that did the rebuild advised I only use Joe Gibbs Driven Racing Oil HR2 Conventional 10W30.
As per the shop that did the rebuild advised I only use Joe Gibbs Driven Racing Oil HR2 Conventional 10W30.
With that said the leak could be from another source (intake manifold, opti or crank seal) but the WP drive seal is the most common seal to leak, especially if WP was changed and the seal got "disturbed" in the process
Joe Gibbs oil is good. Has a higher zinc content. If you have catalytic converters though prolonged use can be problematic to CATS
If you are unsure of a oi leak source than using oil engine dye with black light & amber goggles will show up a leak source quite well. Clean area of leak first