Oil analysis results with German Castrol 0w30
02-10-2005, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JS
Maybe I'll do it someday but I take the word of drag racers who run $$$$ engines in there cars.Just about all of them run the Valvonline,I dont think it would be a good idea to test this oil because it has no additive package.Its a race oil which I change out every 3 times I run the car or 1000 miles.
I've been told be a few racers that syn tend to pull heat from the valve sporings and thats not a good thing.I'm sure this syn. that Patman is talking about is great for the most street guys but IMO for a drag racer its not needed.
JMHO.....
I've been told be a few racers that syn tend to pull heat from the valve sporings and thats not a good thing.I'm sure this syn. that Patman is talking about is great for the most street guys but IMO for a drag racer its not needed.
JMHO.....
02-10-2005, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
I got back my first oil analysis results from my 98 Corvette, and the numbers look great! Lowest engine wear I've seen yet on an LS1 vehicle. This engine loves German Castrol Syntec 0w30! Here is the data:
5000 miles on oil
Aug7-Oct 11 (2 months)
37,000 miles on engine
German Castrol Syntec 0w30
K&N oil filter
K&N air filter
Daily driver, lots of full throttle
9 quarter mile runs, 10 dyno runs
7L oil capacity
no top up oil
Onboard computer said it had 39% oil life left
Iron 8
Lead 1
Aluminum 3
Copper 2
Chromium 0
Nickel 0
Titanium 0
Tin 0
Silver 0
Vanadium 0
Silicon 7
Potassium 0
Sodium 0
Boron 5
Barium 0
Manganese 3
Calcium 2419
Magnesium 101
Moly 26
Phosphorus 737
Zinc 831
Sulfur 2420
Oxidation 56%
Nitration 39%
Sulfation 42%
Fuel 0
Water 0
Glycol 0
Viscosity 11.5 cst at 100c
TBN 6.2
I'm most impressed with the K&N air filter! I've told people to avoid them in the past since they often show high dirt (silicon) in the results, but in some cases (like this one!) they really can do a good job! I think a lot of people probably over oil them or under oil them, while this one here was probably just put in fresh out of the box by the previous owner.
5000 miles on oil
Aug7-Oct 11 (2 months)
37,000 miles on engine
German Castrol Syntec 0w30
K&N oil filter
K&N air filter
Daily driver, lots of full throttle
9 quarter mile runs, 10 dyno runs
7L oil capacity
no top up oil
Onboard computer said it had 39% oil life left
Iron 8
Lead 1
Aluminum 3
Copper 2
Chromium 0
Nickel 0
Titanium 0
Tin 0
Silver 0
Vanadium 0
Silicon 7
Potassium 0
Sodium 0
Boron 5
Barium 0
Manganese 3
Calcium 2419
Magnesium 101
Moly 26
Phosphorus 737
Zinc 831
Sulfur 2420
Oxidation 56%
Nitration 39%
Sulfation 42%
Fuel 0
Water 0
Glycol 0
Viscosity 11.5 cst at 100c
TBN 6.2
I'm most impressed with the K&N air filter! I've told people to avoid them in the past since they often show high dirt (silicon) in the results, but in some cases (like this one!) they really can do a good job! I think a lot of people probably over oil them or under oil them, while this one here was probably just put in fresh out of the box by the previous owner.
Hi Patman
Two simple Questions - why not use 0-40? Maybe because you live in the cold north. What are normal ranges for the oil analyzes?
Thanks
Bill
02-10-2005, 03:04 PM
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Iron 4 9
Lead 5 8
Aluminum 2 3
Copper 3 9
Chromium 0 0
Nickel 0 0
Titanium 0 0
Tin 1 0
Silver 0 0
Vanadium 0 0
Silicon 3 3
Potassium 0 0
Sodium 0 1
Boron 0 0
Barium 0 0
Manganese 1 0
Calcium 2112 2312
Magnesium 13 22
Moly 23 26
Phosphorus 808 828
Zinc 899 1000
Oxidation 13 13
Nitration 19 20
Fuel 0.5 .6
Water <.1 <.1
soot <.1 <.1
Viscosity 10.4 cst at 100c 10.9
TBN 2.46 2.47
Mileage on oil 4,082 6930(mileage 108786 truck)
I do have results up to 6930 miles posted too
This on a 00 chevy pu 5.3 119,000 miles
Kendall 5-30 Semi Syn GF-4. Enjoy John
Lead 5 8
Aluminum 2 3
Copper 3 9
Chromium 0 0
Nickel 0 0
Titanium 0 0
Tin 1 0
Silver 0 0
Vanadium 0 0
Silicon 3 3
Potassium 0 0
Sodium 0 1
Boron 0 0
Barium 0 0
Manganese 1 0
Calcium 2112 2312
Magnesium 13 22
Moly 23 26
Phosphorus 808 828
Zinc 899 1000
Oxidation 13 13
Nitration 19 20
Fuel 0.5 .6
Water <.1 <.1
soot <.1 <.1
Viscosity 10.4 cst at 100c 10.9
TBN 2.46 2.47
Mileage on oil 4,082 6930(mileage 108786 truck)
I do have results up to 6930 miles posted too
This on a 00 chevy pu 5.3 119,000 miles
Kendall 5-30 Semi Syn GF-4. Enjoy John
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02-11-2005, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JS
Maybe I'll do it someday but I take the word of drag racers who run $$$$ engines in there cars.Just about all of them run the Valvonline,I dont think it would be a good idea to test this oil because it has no additive package.Its a race oil which I change out every 3 times I run the car or 1000 miles.
02-11-2005, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill's 02 Z-28 SS
Hi Patman
Two simple Questions - why not use 0-40? Maybe because you live in the cold north. What are normal ranges for the oil analyzes?
Thanks
Bill
Two simple Questions - why not use 0-40? Maybe because you live in the cold north. What are normal ranges for the oil analyzes?
Thanks
Bill
I don't use 0w40 simply because this 0w30 oil is working so well. I would love to try Castrol's 0w40 someday but it's not available in North America.
02-11-2005, 09:37 AM
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Yes Patman racing oil does have some kind of additive package but we both know they dont have nearly the ingredients of say a Mobil One has or your beloved German Castrol so I dont wanna see street guys running the racing version on the Valvoline and thinking its a good idea for prolonged intervals.
I might try to save the oil in my car and send it out just to see what u think,it has 20 HARD runs on it and about 1500 miles.My engine is new 2000 miles so I dont know if this will be a great test but it I'd still like to see the reults.
I'll save some,what do I put it in to send to blackstone labs...
I might try to save the oil in my car and send it out just to see what u think,it has 20 HARD runs on it and about 1500 miles.My engine is new 2000 miles so I dont know if this will be a great test but it I'd still like to see the reults.
I'll save some,what do I put it in to send to blackstone labs...
02-11-2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
Blackstone keeps track of the average numbers on all of their LS1 reports, and they are much higher than the one I posted. Whenever someone with an LS1 gets their oil analyzed by them they include those averages, in fact I believe they are posted a few posts up. But you need to know the mileage that average is for also.
I don't use 0w40 simply because this 0w30 oil is working so well. I would love to try Castrol's 0w40 someday but it's not available in North America.
I don't use 0w40 simply because this 0w30 oil is working so well. I would love to try Castrol's 0w40 someday but it's not available in North America.
Thanks for the info - also Mobil1 has a 0w40 at Advanced Auto Parts stores.
Bill
02-11-2005, 12:01 PM
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Here are some pics of the back of castrol 0w 30 oil that everyone is asking for...i really think it should be a sticky. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...71567282tNkCmS
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...71567184VoFtFR
Webshots are a lot higher resolution.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...71567184VoFtFR
Webshots are a lot higher resolution.
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02-11-2005, 12:16 PM
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You want to buy the 2006 filter. It is the longer version of the 1007 and will allow your LS1 to take all 6 quarts.
02-11-2005, 06:02 PM
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German Castrol Syntec 3.99 Qt. @ Autozone Just went to three autozones in my area and bought every quart of German 0W-30 Castrol they had. Found 17 Qts. in three stores and I only spent 73.42 total. Now that's a deal. Don't know if this is a national thing, but worth the look. I will add that the shelves were not marked indicating the sale and I didn't know it until they added it up at check out. It's worth the trip to see what they have in stock and the price. Still have one more store to check out this weekend to see if I can find more. 
02-11-2005, 06:30 PM
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If you cannot find GC the M1 T&SUV, 5W-40 oil is good stuff also as you can see in my oil report on my 98' SS...
3000 miles on oil
May ?-Nov 27 (7 months)
57,000 miles on engine
AC oil filter
AC air filter
No Oil Added
ALUMINUM 2
CHROMIUM 1
IRON 7
COPPER 3
LEAD 2
TIN 0
MOLYBDENUM 13
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 4
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 0
BORON 52
SILICON 8
SODIUM 3
CALCIUM 3499
MAGNESIUM 589
PHOSPHORUS 1187
ZINC 1327
BARIUM 0
SUS VIS @ 210 71.3
Flash Point 385
Fuel <0.5
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3000 miles on oil
May ?-Nov 27 (7 months)
57,000 miles on engine
AC oil filter
AC air filter
No Oil Added
ALUMINUM 2
CHROMIUM 1
IRON 7
COPPER 3
LEAD 2
TIN 0
MOLYBDENUM 13
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 4
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 0
BORON 52
SILICON 8
SODIUM 3
CALCIUM 3499
MAGNESIUM 589
PHOSPHORUS 1187
ZINC 1327
BARIUM 0
SUS VIS @ 210 71.3
Flash Point 385
Fuel <0.5
Insolubles .3
02-12-2005, 08:40 AM
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Patman informed me in another thread that some guys in another forum were buying this oil from Autozone for 1.00 per quart. Damn, wish I was that lucky.
02-12-2005, 11:03 AM
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I was reading this on another site.....patman is this true? "Castrol Syntec is not real synthetic oil. It is just highly purified dyno oil. It does not have very controlled olefin chain distribution. If you can find Castrol Syntec with "made in Germany" label then it is likley to be fully synth. Just that gimmick alone would turn me away from the whole Castol line of products." http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/430403 guy's name is blueiedgod
02-13-2005, 04:38 AM
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I was reading this on another site.....patman is this true? "Castrol Syntec is not real synthetic oil. It is just highly purified dyno oil. It does not have very controlled olefin chain distribution. If you can find Castrol Syntec with "made in Germany" label then it is likley to be fully synth. Just that gimmick alone would turn me away from the whole Castol line of products." http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/430403 guy's name is blueiedgod
It's true, most of the Castrol Syntec products (with the exception of German made 0w30 and Belgian made 5w40) are not true synthetics.
But this is the case of almost all of the "synthetics" commonly sold, such as Valvoline, Quaker State, Havoline, etc. Mobil 1 is fully synthetic though. So are the specialty oils like Amsoil, Redline, Neo, and Royal Purple's racing oils.
02-13-2005, 10:30 AM
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And is it true that auto zone is going to stop carrying the german made 0w 30?
I called Autozone Corp office and talked to the oil buyer. I asked him if they were going to quit carrying the Castrol 0w-30. He said that it and the Mobil 0w-30 have been dogs for sales. He said they will be discontiued in the stores with small oil racks less than 20'long to make room for other oils. They will continue to be sold in the stores with the 20-30' racks. He said one section was 5' long so it's easy to tell which stores would quit selling it. He also said that they will be carrying the Castrol 5w-40 in all stores as it has been a good seller in it's limited markets.
02-13-2005, 11:53 PM
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Patman could u or would u ever test Valvoline Dino in your car..
Or another Dino thats equivalant to it...
Just would like to see the comparo,Maybe I'll run syn. if u show me its really worth it.
Remember my car is primarally a race type car,I only drive it 4K a yr at most,I race it about 10 times a yr so I dont need a prolonged oil interval,at best 2K miles.
Do u think most Dino's would be okay for me or do u think I could still benefit from Syn...
Or another Dino thats equivalant to it...
Just would like to see the comparo,Maybe I'll run syn. if u show me its really worth it.
Remember my car is primarally a race type car,I only drive it 4K a yr at most,I race it about 10 times a yr so I dont need a prolonged oil interval,at best 2K miles.
Do u think most Dino's would be okay for me or do u think I could still benefit from Syn...
02-14-2005, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
This is the latest info I've got on that subject, from someone on BOBISTHEOILGUY.com:
That sucks!!! I just found a place where I can get it and now this.....damn.
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Its too bad that its tough for some of you to find the Castrol 0W30.
I have run it in my car and I can honestly say that I was very impressed.
I'm not sure how much it matters but even after 3000Km of hard driving the oil looks very clean. It doesn't darken like the Mobil1 that I used previously.
This was in my 02 LS1. I really do drive my car hard. Every chance I get that car sees redline
I have run it in my car and I can honestly say that I was very impressed.
I'm not sure how much it matters but even after 3000Km of hard driving the oil looks very clean. It doesn't darken like the Mobil1 that I used previously.
This was in my 02 LS1. I really do drive my car hard. Every chance I get that car sees redline