Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Almost done with my MS4 install, but... (radiator)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-29-2008, 12:16 PM
  #1  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default Almost done with my MS4 install, but... (radiator)

So the MS4 cam and spring package is in, now all i am waiting for is an underdrive pulley to come in and i will install and start the car.
Question: Can i start my car with out the radiator in the car? (incase something goes wrong - so i don't have to pull the radiator back out - that was a pain in the ***!)

thank you!

EDIT: the car will only be started and ran to make sure the install went correctly! & what type of coolent should i get and what raito?
Old 11-29-2008, 01:08 PM
  #2  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
CoastieWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lake Charles La / Mobile, AL
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yes, you should be fine. Just make sure you don't run it longer than 5 min.
Old 11-29-2008, 02:53 PM
  #3  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (3)
 
00bowtiejunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: E'town..Kentucky
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

jus make sure to keep a very close eye on your temp gauge cuase your fans are out also.....
Old 11-29-2008, 02:57 PM
  #4  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (3)
 
00bowtiejunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: E'town..Kentucky
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

oh just seen the edit.... Its up to you but when i had mine apart i flushed the block,rad,waterpump and heater core lines and converted it to the green antifreeze mostly becuase it was alot cheaper and they say it will run alittle cooler... but its up to you...
Old 11-29-2008, 07:26 PM
  #5  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Anybody else on radiator fluid?
Old 11-29-2008, 08:06 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
 
99345hp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,516
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I run the universal coolant. It works with both green and gm dexcool.
Old 11-29-2008, 09:26 PM
  #7  
Launching!
iTrader: (5)
 
scottHMT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i use distilled water and water wetter, 2-3 bottles
Old 11-29-2008, 10:15 PM
  #8  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Gordon0652
So the MS4 cam and spring package is in, now all i am waiting for is an underdrive pulley to come in and i will install and start the car.
Question: Can i start my car with out the radiator in the car? (incase something goes wrong - so i don't have to pull the radiator back out - that was a pain in the ***!)

thank you!

EDIT: the car will only be started and ran to make sure the install went correctly! & what type of coolent should i get and what raito?
Haha Give me some of what you are

The damn radiator is the easiest part of the whole job and you want to cut corners here

Maybe you will get lucky and the only thing that f@cks up is the water pump since your coolant acts as the WP lubricant.

On the other hand you could fry bearings/rings, crack heads etc...

At least hook it up and put some water in it and leave plastic **** and airbox stuff on top off til later.

Think about this. These cars will run hot with a radiator full of coolant just because there are still air pockets in the block and you want to run it dry

Let us know how it goes. Are you by chance friends with the guy on here who flushed his oil out with water
Old 11-29-2008, 10:39 PM
  #9  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
smokeum99ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: waldorf,md
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Gordon0652
So the MS4 cam and spring package is in, now all i am waiting for is an underdrive pulley to come in and i will install and start the car.
Question: Can i start my car with out the radiator in the car? (incase something goes wrong - so i don't have to pull the radiator back out - that was a pain in the ***!)

thank you!

EDIT: the car will only be started and ran to make sure the install went correctly! & what type of coolent should i get and what raito?
To answer your first question, Yes you can start your car without the radiator in it. But it's not advised by me. When you are refering to the radiator being a pain in the azz is that because you are keeping the ac condensor connected? And orange coolant that mixed 50/50 for your second question.
Old 11-29-2008, 10:45 PM
  #10  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
thegroup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Archie, MO
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Haha Give me some of what you are

The damn radiator is the easiest part of the whole job and you want to cut corners here

Maybe you will get lucky and the only thing that f@cks up is the water pump since your coolant acts as the WP lubricant.

On the other hand you could fry bearings/rings, crack heads etc...

At least hook it up and put some water in it and leave plastic **** and airbox stuff on top off til later.

Think about this. These cars will run hot with a radiator full of coolant just because there are still air pockets in the block and you want to run it dry

Let us know how it goes. Are you by chance friends with the guy on here who flushed his oil out with water
ow SNAP!!
Old 11-30-2008, 12:15 AM
  #11  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by smokeum99ta
When you are refering to the radiator being a pain in the azz is that because you are keeping the ac condensor connected?
Yes it was still connected.
Just pulling the radiator was the most difficult part for me. I removed all the lines and still had a hard time, it was the four clip/things on each side that kept getting hung on everything.
Maybe i am dreading putting it back in too much.
Old 11-30-2008, 12:21 AM
  #12  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Haha Give me some of what you are

The damn radiator is the easiest part of the whole job and you want to cut corners here

Maybe you will get lucky and the only thing that f@cks up is the water pump since your coolant acts as the WP lubricant.

On the other hand you could fry bearings/rings, crack heads etc...

At least hook it up and put some water in it and leave plastic **** and airbox stuff on top off til later.

Think about this. These cars will run hot with a radiator full of coolant just because there are still air pockets in the block and you want to run it dry

Let us know how it goes. Are you by chance friends with the guy on here who flushed his oil out with water

Outch... haha
Glad we have these boards anyways i might have f^cked up.
Thank you. (& i do not )
Old 11-30-2008, 01:43 AM
  #13  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=Gordon0652;10570779]Outch... haha
Glad we have these boards anyways i might have f^cked up.
Thank you. (& i do not )[/QUOTE

Sorry if I came across as an ***. Didn't really mean to
When I swapped in my after market radiator it wasn't bad at all but if you were trying to do it by yourself I can see it being a PITA. I laid down under the car and had a friend lowering it from the top and with both sets of eyes and hands it went in pretty smoothly. It seems it wanted to hang up more on the DS which is odd cause being A4 there are more fittings portruding from the PS.

Good luck with it and BTW Maple Red is an awesome color that you don't see very often.
Old 11-30-2008, 03:52 AM
  #14  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (88)
 
the_merv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Beach...
Posts: 19,261
Received 63 Likes on 54 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Let us know how it goes. Are you by chance friends with the guy on here who flushed his oil out with water
Where was that one..

Link please..I got to see that one..
Old 11-30-2008, 08:55 AM
  #15  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Sorry if I came across as an ***. Didn't really mean to
You didn't.

Originally Posted by the_merv
Where was that one..

Link please..I got to see that one..
I wanna see this also!
Old 11-30-2008, 09:09 AM
  #16  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (9)
 
OUTLAWZ RACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: COLUMBUS GA.
Posts: 2,726
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by scottHMT
i use distilled water and water wetter, 2-3 bottles
me to ! Temps never go above 190 on the iron block and stock fans.
Old 11-30-2008, 09:52 AM
  #17  
On The Tree
iTrader: (10)
 
Jasonscott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wenatchee, WA
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scottHMT
i use distilled water and water wetter, 2-3 bottles
must not get very cold where you live huh? Might not be such a good idea for this guy bein that his avatar says NY.
Old 11-30-2008, 10:04 AM
  #18  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Jasonscott
must not get very cold where you live huh? Might not be such a good idea for this guy bein that his avatar says NY.
lol. only on the road 2-3 months in the summer and heated shop kept in the winter.
Old 11-30-2008, 10:06 AM
  #19  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Gordon0652's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,188
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Thank you for all the help everyone!
Old 11-30-2008, 10:25 AM
  #20  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the_merv
Where was that one..

Link please..I got to see that one..

It was in the general or noob forums.

The guy posted up about his car knocking after an oil change and went on to say it was after an oil change in which he flushed his oil out with water.

I didn't know for sure whether to take it serious at first but but the guy posted back a couple times and sounded like he just didn't know any better.

It was a hoot If I see it again I will link it over here for sure



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:13 AM.