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94Z28-MSTGKLR May 31, 2011 05:48 PM

P0300 Code. Here's my issue and question.
 
Okay, just bear with me guys because I want to give you as much info as I can so you can help me. Car has 112k and is all stock components except for in sig. Car started miss firing the other day. Never had an issue of any sort up to this point. Cold start, hot start, it will miss fire, almost to the point of dying. Idles fine though. Starts misfiring whenever you accelerate. It will do this for 4 or 5 minutes then will stop. Won't miss a beat until you kill the car. As soon as it stars up, idles fine and will stay missing again once you get going. After a few minutes it quits again. This cycle repeats its self every time I start the car. Is only been doing this for a few days now. When its running bad the check engine light comes on with a P0300 (Random multiple cylinder misfire). When it stats running good again after a few minutes the light will go out. Any ideas? Time for new plugs or something more serious?

Darkman May 31, 2011 06:03 PM

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That particular code can be triggered by almost anything that can cause a misfire, from a broken valve spring to a bad plug or plug wire. Have you done anything under the hood lately? Like oil the K&N?

94Z28-MSTGKLR May 31, 2011 06:14 PM

No. I haven't done anything under the hood. All the plugs and wires are stock.

Darkman May 31, 2011 06:29 PM

The most efficient way to solve this is to take to a shop with the Scan tool to monitor the misfire counters etc. and isolate the problem.

Another approach is to check/replace those things that due anyway. At 112k miles, for example, if the plugs, plug wires, fuel filter, or front O2 sensors are original they are at their useful life anyway.

Transamcrazy99 May 31, 2011 06:34 PM

It might be clogged cats. I no someone who had a misfire on a ford explorer and he replaced the cat and the misfire never came back. i no it was a ford but that might be a possible solution.

94Z28-MSTGKLR May 31, 2011 08:34 PM

Well I just drove home from work and here's the latest. Got in the car, started up fine. missed under a load for quiet some time. Also to note, while it's missing, if I put the pedal WOT, the missing completely stops and the car starts to pull like normal. Get on the freeway and the missing clears up and goes away. Get off the freeway 15 miles later and is runninng fine. Pull into gas station to get gas, still running fine. After getting gas, start the car up, instantly running like poop again. Ideas??

Darkman May 31, 2011 08:50 PM

Everything that comes to mind should be triggering another trouble code in addition to the P0300. Engines that run lean work better once warmed up - but a lean condition should trigger another code. The O2 sensors and catylitic converters also like to be warmed up, but either would be triggering codes.

94Z28-MSTGKLR May 31, 2011 09:00 PM

I'm just as confused. I've got a set of ACDelco plugs, MSD wires, fuel filter, pcv valve, 2 Delphi o2 sensors, new accessory/ac belts, an oil change and a Magnaflow catback (To replace the FM currently on it) just sitting in my garage because I have no time to put them on. I think it's time. I may also run a bottle of fuel injector cleaner through the this tank of gas.

94Z28-MSTGKLR May 31, 2011 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Darkman (Post 14983669)
Everything that comes to mind should be triggering another trouble code in addition to the P0300. Engines that run lean work better once warmed up - but a lean condition should trigger another code. The O2 sensors and catylitic converters also like to be warmed up, but either would be triggering codes.

I wish it was a lean condition. If anything I would think it's running rich. I cruise between 60-65 mph on the freeway in 6th gear and I have yet to get more than 17-18 mpg. I'm averaging about 180-200 miles per tank.

Darkman May 31, 2011 09:06 PM

If your luck is like mine, all those new parts will trigger some new code or problem.

Good luck.

Darkman May 31, 2011 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by 94Z28-MSTGKLR (Post 14983719)
I wish it was a lean condition. If anything I would think it's running rich. I cruise between 60-65 mph on the freeway in 6th gear and I have yet to get more than 17-18 mpg. I'm averaging about 180-200 miles per tank.

When you shut the engine off do you get any run-on or dieseling?

94Z28-MSTGKLR May 31, 2011 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Darkman (Post 14983758)
When you shut the engine off do you get any run-on or dieseling?

No I don't. It starts up and shuts down just like it should. It's only when I first get started down the road. It's weird because it will be running just fine, and I can turn the key off, then instantly start the car right back up and it will start missing again...

Darkman May 31, 2011 09:21 PM

It could be something like a lifter that takes awhile to pump up and that collapses quickly on shut down. I have seen folks chase this code (P0300) for weeks because it can include so many different things. A scan tool would at least tell you which cylinder, or cylinders, are involved.

94Z28-MSTGKLR Jun 1, 2011 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by Darkman (Post 14983803)
It could be something like a lifter that takes awhile to pump up and that collapses quickly on shut down. I have seen folks chase this code (P0300) for weeks because it can include so many different things. A scan tool would at least tell you which cylinder, or cylinders, are involved.

I've had a lifter do that before in a different car and it made alot of noise. Mine is quiet aside from the noise associated with the misfire. It doesn't sound as if it would be a lifter.

kevin kuether Jun 1, 2011 12:53 AM

Maybe a sticking injector or possibly a vacuum leak that seals itself after the engine is warm.

94Z28-MSTGKLR Jun 1, 2011 10:14 AM

So I took a look under the hood just looking for anything obvious. The only thing I found was the line running from the pcv to the intake. The rubber has given away and that line is completely collapsed. Whenever I grab the line and pull on it it causes the engine to surge. Could this be the issue?

TZ2884 Jun 1, 2011 10:25 AM

To my knowledge that could definitely cause a misfire. I remember my girlfriends car had the same problem, it ran like shit until I replaced it. It also had a bad plug though.

98_TA_EMLC Jun 1, 2011 10:30 AM

that's def a problem...vaccum leak allowing air into the intake that the MAF isn't registering. Definitely replace that line....heater hose lines work fine.

94Z28-MSTGKLR Jun 1, 2011 10:34 AM

The hose isn't broke open. Its collapsed closed.

94Z28-MSTGKLR Jun 1, 2011 10:47 AM

Now that I've been under the hood messing with that line my car runs even worse. I just pulled the line off then put it back on and now the car misses just idling which it wasn't doing before...


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