High end oil filters examined
04-20-2015, 12:00 PM
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I would have to completely agree with you Paul, however there are a couple things I noticed right away about the shitty filter that don't look right to me.
First off, the good filter has the small black "printer testing marks" above and to the sides of the filter number.
Secondly, the good filter actually says "lube filter" under the filter number in the red mark.
Thirdly, the good filter is smooth all the way from top to bottom and the shittt one has the pleats toward the very bottom.
Then there's the whole inside differences. Dealing with these on a daily basis and getting shipments every week directly from Cummins, to me the filter on the right looks like a knock off.
I'm going to do some more digging today and make some phone calls to see what I come up with. Hopefully I can get in touch with our rep, but I have a few places I can call.
First off, the good filter has the small black "printer testing marks" above and to the sides of the filter number.
Secondly, the good filter actually says "lube filter" under the filter number in the red mark.
Thirdly, the good filter is smooth all the way from top to bottom and the shittt one has the pleats toward the very bottom.
Then there's the whole inside differences. Dealing with these on a daily basis and getting shipments every week directly from Cummins, to me the filter on the right looks like a knock off.
I'm going to do some more digging today and make some phone calls to see what I come up with. Hopefully I can get in touch with our rep, but I have a few places I can call.
05-28-2015, 11:00 AM
#63
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Interesting read. I thought I was doing my motor a favor by purchasing the Mobil 1 filters, but I guess I'll have to upgrade.
I'm curious, though: are there any reputable placed to buy these online? I mean, Paul, you're finding knock offs at companies you actually trust... But you're familiar with these filters and know how to spot a fake..
I'm curious, though: are there any reputable placed to buy these online? I mean, Paul, you're finding knock offs at companies you actually trust... But you're familiar with these filters and know how to spot a fake..
09-07-2015, 10:20 PM
#65
A Filtermag should do a good job turning a standard filter into a high end one.
I have this one:
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ra300
Looks like they have new models or model names now though.
I have this one:
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ra300
Looks like they have new models or model names now though.
09-08-2015, 07:28 AM
#66
The filter mag sticks to the outside of the filter can-which is metal. This greatly reduces the magnetic strength that's actually available inside the can.
Despite that, yes, they do attract some metal partials that might be in the oil.
However, if your oil has as much magnetic stuff to be attracted by the magnet as shown in their advertising, your engine has bigger problems than needing a filter mag.
A good quality oil filter and magnetic oil drain plug should be all you need. The drain plug will show stuff on it.
Having said this, it doesn't hurt anything to use it. If you have and wanna spend sixty bucks, go ahead.
Despite that, yes, they do attract some metal partials that might be in the oil.
However, if your oil has as much magnetic stuff to be attracted by the magnet as shown in their advertising, your engine has bigger problems than needing a filter mag.
A good quality oil filter and magnetic oil drain plug should be all you need. The drain plug will show stuff on it.
Having said this, it doesn't hurt anything to use it. If you have and wanna spend sixty bucks, go ahead.
09-08-2015, 09:23 AM
#67
FWIW, I used to find the normal small amount of metal dust on my mag plug before the Filtermag but the plug comes out clean without a trace after affixing the Filtermag.
It's not just a lame elementary school magnet. It usually takes a flat blade screwdriver to pry it off.
It's not just a lame elementary school magnet. It usually takes a flat blade screwdriver to pry it off.
09-25-2015, 08:28 AM
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What are your thought on reusable oil filter. I had one for 95 TA, the only drawback is the cost. I ordered a new one for the firehawk, I will show pictures when I get it.
09-28-2015, 02:59 PM
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Everyone reading this and choosing to make a switch, please post Brand A filter idle oil pressure, and Brand B filter idle oil pressure. If you can.
Pressure drop data and actual filter media micron ratings would both be nice to see.
Pressure drop data and actual filter media micron ratings would both be nice to see.
10-03-2015, 06:04 AM
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10-24-2015, 11:28 AM
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Many manufacturers offer "high flow racing" filters. Moroso, Wix and Fram all offer it. These filters usually have a high micron rating such as 60 microns, so they filter less dirt.
The Wix filter specifically says on it for race use only. Race cars typically see oil & filter changes after a few races and don't need to filter dirty high milage oil.
High flow race filters should not be used on street or DD vehicles.
The Wix filter specifically says on it for race use only. Race cars typically see oil & filter changes after a few races and don't need to filter dirty high milage oil.
High flow race filters should not be used on street or DD vehicles.
10-24-2015, 10:53 PM
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FYI, the K & P Engineering S16(complete assembly) fits the 98-2002 F-body, it filters down to 35 microns, an is easy to clean. I've had one (S16) on my Camaro for around 7 yrs and have never had any issues with it, other than the fact it doesn't come with any extra O-rings which you will eventually need. You can get the seals for a good price at McMaster-Carr. The O-rings are pt#90025K391 and come in a bag of 25 for $11.19. All it's component are available individually.
Retail price is $159.
Here's a list of S16 components part numbers:
Housing, C3
Quad Ring, QR2
Filter Element, FE16
Filter Element Retaining Spring, FERS1
Cup Wrench, CW1
Retail price is $159.
Here's a list of S16 components part numbers:
Housing, C3
Quad Ring, QR2
Filter Element, FE16
Filter Element Retaining Spring, FERS1
Cup Wrench, CW1
Last edited by 99Bluz28; 10-24-2015 at 11:04 PM.