Fullblast

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I'm considering getting the ftp 104 intake and either a Tsp 100 mm screened maf or a lingenfelter Maf.

I have an air lid already, but was wondering if I will get any noticeable power gains from these two.

I know I will have to retune if I get the maf. Just seeing if it's worth it.

Tuskyz28

very interesting question.... I'll be all ears on this

MonmouthCtyLS7

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You should see something but it will be limited w/ stock cubes. Biggest gains would probably be the maf & tune, on stock cubes I would just grab a 85mm truck maf off Ebay for 40 bucks, your lids fine.

scotty2000ss

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If you're running a matching 102 intake and throttle body it will be a nice little gain. You can build your own maf for half the price of the two mentioned.

Fullblast

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Do you have any links on how to build this Maf?

$40 for an 85mm sounds nice

To me it seems if your running a 102/102 then why put a 75 mm or 85 mm restriction before it? Or am I over thinking it.

scotty2000ss

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100mm MAF
Housing
http://www.spectreperformance.com/se...FYqPHwodMCkFfA

LS7 MAF card
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...nid=517&jpid=3

MAF Screen
http://www.saxonpc.com/100mm-cells-f...viewfullsite=1

Wiring Harness
http://www.casperselectronics.com/st...a44067f77d91d5

Make sure you measure the ID of the MAF housing before you order the screen just to be sure.

SoFla01SSLookinstok

Seeing as your a H/C/I car I think you would feel the difference.

More air = more power every time.

big hammer

You're Not over thinking. Leaving a 78mm maf in front of a 92 or 102 is silly. Especially for the cost of an 85mm truck maf.

The difference between the stock 78 and the truck maf is significant

Fullblast

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That's a huge difference in the size of the mafs.

I looked at the spectre maf housing and it has 76 and 89 mm flow calibration tubes. Is it necessary to use these or can I just run the 100mm without them?

Tuskyz28

Some tuners say a 100mm maf is hard to tune .... others will say the same thing about going the speed density route.

Fullblast

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I've read that on here. Perhaps the easiest route would be the 85mm truck maf. I still haven't found one for $40 though.

I do plan on getting a functional ram air hood. Would it be better to get an open 2 filter Volant intake instead of the Ftp 104. It seems like I would just be throwing money at the car to upgrade to a 104 when I already have the Mti carbon fiber airlid

madmike9396

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I think a ram air from the bottom will be more beneficial

scotty2000ss

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Me personally I don't like the open coned filters. Any sealed ram air system out performs them IMO. The first generation 100mm mafs with no screen were the ones that had tuning issues.

01ssreda4

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Listen carefully, if anyone tells you A. a SD is hard/harder to tune or B. speed density cars don't run right, they are a ******* moron!

Get the 104 lid, about 4 inches of 4 inch exhaust pipe, and whatever bellow you want and you're done, ditch the maf, sell your stocker for $50 and put towards your lid.

MonmouthCtyLS7

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Didnt even look at your sig, yea If your running a 102/102 setup I would definitely spring for the TSP maf, and the lid isn't that expensive so why not.

Darth_V8r

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Get the nick Williams 102 throttle. Most aftermarket throttles have the IAC passage restricted which can cause surging. The NW has a fully drilled out 3/8" IAC passage. It will make for the best tuning possible

BlackDuk98

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I agree. Just removing the maf and going SD gained me around 15rwhp, and about the same amount of torque. Car runs the best that it ever has. This is running through a 98mm lid, 4" dia aluminum, coupler into a fast 92. Should have went bigger with everything and regret it now.

01ssreda4

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4 inch pipe plugs directly into the 100+mm lid as an FYI. I've run both.

Fullblast

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Who likes mafs anyway? I always thought they had something to do with emissions.

I'm going to look around to see who can give a good sd tune. If I can find one I'll ditch the maf.

So it's worth investing in.a Nick.Williams throttle body over the Fast 102? It would tune much easier?

01ssreda4

iTrader: (96)

I like MAFs for a few different reasons. On the fly fuel trim changes is where a MAF really kicks ***. Example you shut your car off in texas, trailered it to Colorado, and then went to back it off the trailer. The MAF equipped car would recover from the changes much quicker and run smoother while it was doing it. Second example is if you park your car and the season changes before it relearns long term trims. This happens to me because sometimes I literally only drive my car 5 miles in a month at times. Do this a few months in a row and the trims can be out of whack. Solution drive till it relearns or pull the battery cable for one minute. Not a big deal either way and would only effect cars that stay parked so much. MAFs also excel at cruise AFRs where you're going a steady speed. They can really dial in on that and maximize fuel economy while cruising. So I'm definitely not against MAFs at all, they play a roll. Its just not a roll I give two ***** about