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artic-z28 Jul 8, 2004 12:01 AM

macs VS LT's
 
I know that this question is probly asked alot, but I want to know which is better for my mods. I currently have a 216/220 CC , TCI 3400 stall , borla and other small mods like Lid and pulley...ect

Would the mac's benifit me or would the LT"s ?

OnyxY2KSS Jul 8, 2004 12:06 AM

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139142

scroll down lil bit

Ferocity02 Jul 8, 2004 12:11 AM

Get the LT's if you can afford them. They generally offer slightly better gains than MAC's in the low end, but the two are nearly identical in the top end.

artic-z28 Jul 8, 2004 12:16 AM

I really not worried down low my stall gets me in the higher rpms faster , but from what i have been reading the year of my car . 2002 , wont see a big improvement if i get macs .

SSactionLs1 Jul 8, 2004 01:06 AM

ive had both, LT>macs

artic-z28 Jul 8, 2004 01:35 AM

heh which is greater ?

Z28Venom Jul 8, 2004 01:56 AM

Why do it half-way? Get the LT's...

SSactionLs1 Jul 8, 2004 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by artic-z28
heh which is greater ?

think of it this way, if lt make more mid range power. You will get out of mid range that much faster and through the gears faster IE faster car with better times.

jrp Jul 8, 2004 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by BlackY2KSS

nice to see other members staying on top of things :cool: :cheers: :)

m_donze Jul 8, 2004 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Get the LT's if you can afford them. They generally offer slightly better gains than MAC's in the low end, but the two are nearly identical in the top end.

I thought it was the other way around...

slik98z Jul 8, 2004 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by artic-z28
I know that this question is probly asked alot, but I want to know which is better for my mods. I currently have a 216/220 CC , TCI 3400 stall , borla and other small mods like Lid and pulley...ect

Would the mac's benifit me or would the LT"s ?


this would be why we have the search feature.

both would benefit you with the cam over stock manifolds.

asking if you would benefit from going to either would be like me asking you if you'd sleep with Britney Spears.

Torkman15 Jul 8, 2004 11:21 AM

Had Mac mids went to LTs having too many fitment issues and others I dont even have a clue about (need HP Tuners) My Macs fit like a glove so I'm putting them back on as soon as I get them coated. :)

PREDATOR-Z Jul 8, 2004 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by artic-z28
I know that this question is probly asked alot, but I want to know which is better for my mods. I currently have a 216/220 CC , TCI 3400 stall , borla and other small mods like Lid and pulley...ect

Would the mac's benifit me or would the LT"s ?

For that cam, they would be more than perfect. That is the "Baby" I'll run, I'm just waiting for heads.

Unforgiven1 Jul 8, 2004 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Z28Venom
Why do it half-way? Get the LT's...

More like 3/4...:jest: :lol:

98 Silver SS Jul 9, 2004 02:06 PM

If you are going for every last bit of power you can get, go for the longtubes. However, the Mac's with a Borla is a pretty well balanced exhaust combo for a stock displacement LS1. Most longtubes use a 3" y-pipe, which seems pointless to me on a mild 346. I spoke with Nick Fillipides at Kooks about switching from my set-up (Mac's/Borla) to a set of Kook's headers and a 3" X system. He told me that he'd done the same swap on other H/C cars, and said he'd expect 11rwhp from the change; he claimed that the Mac's/Borla combo was actually pretty efficient on a street oriented stock cube LS1. I'll keep my exhaust until I go with a larger motor. Unless you're planning on heads or more cubes soon, the Mac's wouldn't be a bad choice, but make sure you throw in a Flowmaster y-collector (the only thing Flowmaster makes that would EVER go on one of my vehicles). I run my Borla capped off (too loud otherwise--cops really notice), have absolutely zero rasp, and get nothing but compliments on how the car sounds. Either way you go, you're going to make more power, which is never a bad thing. :drive:

SSactionLs1 Jul 9, 2004 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by 98 Silver SS
If you are going for every last bit of power you can get, go for the longtubes.


you just listed any car guy ever.

AdamSS Jul 10, 2004 08:51 AM

I'm also looking into MAC headers. For $700 (with catted Y-pipe) it sound very appealing.

I'd have to spend $1200 for catted LTs, so tell me: Is extra 10rwhp worth spending extra $500 ???? - I don't think so. We're talking $50 per 1 rwhp.....For $500 I'd invest into dry nitrous :-)

Also, I have seen people claiming that MAC cats suck, so yesterday I e-mailed Mac to provide me with their flow numbers. If they are bad as people claim they are, then I just might get ORY, and weld in some carsound cats for $100 off ebay. I'll let you know on those flow numbers, if they reply back...

Also, Macs are great if you plan on lowering your car a bit (sprngs/shocks) - very little ground clearence issues....

badmfkr Jul 10, 2004 11:25 AM

macs
 

Originally Posted by 98 Silver SS
If you are going for every last bit of power you can get, go for the longtubes. However, the Mac's with a Borla is a pretty well balanced exhaust combo for a stock displacement LS1. Most longtubes use a 3" y-pipe, which seems pointless to me on a mild 346. I spoke with Nick Fillipides at Kooks about switching from my set-up (Mac's/Borla) to a set of Kook's headers and a 3" X system. He told me that he'd done the same swap on other H/C cars, and said he'd expect 11rwhp from the change; he claimed that the Mac's/Borla combo was actually pretty efficient on a street oriented stock cube LS1. I'll keep my exhaust until I go with a larger motor. Unless you're planning on heads or more cubes soon, the Mac's wouldn't be a bad choice, but make sure you throw in a Flowmaster y-collector (the only thing Flowmaster makes that would EVER go on one of my vehicles). I run my Borla capped off (too loud otherwise--cops really notice), have absolutely zero rasp, and get nothing but compliments on how the car sounds. Either way you go, you're going to make more power, which is never a bad thing. :drive:

So if I'm not planning on heads & cam just small bolt ons then LTs are over kill
& macs would be a good choice, they seam like they would be easier to install also

badmfkr Jul 10, 2004 11:27 AM

macs
 

Originally Posted by AdamSS
I'm also looking into MAC headers. For $700 (with catted Y-pipe) it sound very appealing.

I'd have to spend $1200 for catted LTs, so tell me: Is extra 10rwhp worth spending extra $500 ???? - I don't think so. We're talking $50 per 1 rwhp.....For $500 I'd invest into dry nitrous :-)

Also, I have seen people claiming that MAC cats suck, so yesterday I e-mailed Mac to provide me with their flow numbers. If they are bad as people claim they are, then I just might get ORY, and weld in some carsound cats for $100 off ebay. I'll let you know on those flow numbers, if they reply back...

Also, Macs are great if you plan on lowering your car a bit (sprngs/shocks) - very little ground clearence issues....

Hey I was planning on the same set up/ a flowmaster scavenerger y collector please email me about how it turned out

gun5l1ng3r Jul 10, 2004 12:32 PM

Where can I buy the Flowmater collector?


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