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Floorman279 12-16-2018 01:42 PM

headers for this 427
 
for my 427 build in my 2000 camaro, i think im goona go ahead and spend the money on a new headers now rather than later..... most likely peaking at 68-69 and shifting at 73-74, mamo ls7 heads, msd airforce......i think im goona want a 1 7/8 stepped to 2 inch header to help with my midrange torque goals that the cam will be specced for. ideas? i dont need emissions, and wouldn't mind a wideband tho.

i wouldn't mind trying TSP or speed engineering simply for the price benefit, but i haven't found any dyno graphs comparing there headers to the $1000 big boys.

side note, hooker on their website says breaking in an engine with ceramic headers will ruin the coating....thoughts?

Floorman279 12-16-2018 03:13 PM

anybody know of a place to just get ARH without the y pipe? every time i see them its a full system

G Atsma 12-16-2018 03:16 PM

Call ARH; they'll tell you what's available.

Che70velle 12-16-2018 03:24 PM

I bought my ARH 2” headers through Tony. He will give you a great price with his head purchase. 2” primary’s will pick up power everywhere across your powerband. Proven many times over on back to back dyno runs.
edit...tell Tony you only want headers, not a y-pipe, or system. He will hook you up.

Floorman279 12-16-2018 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by G Atsma (Post 20016841)
Call ARH; they'll tell you what's available.

its sunday......duhhhhh.....jk. yea i planned on it tomorrow but im impatient and want the satisfaction of an internet response

Floorman279 12-16-2018 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 20016848)
I bought my ARH 2” headers through Tony. He will give you a great price with his head purchase. 2” primary’s will pick up power everywhere across your powerband. Proven many times over on back to back dyno runs.

i emailed him earlier, but he knows its sunday too lol

how did they fit? the only 1 7/8 stepped to 2" i found are kooks. i really like the stepped idea

Che70velle 12-16-2018 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Floorman279 (Post 20016850)
i emailed him earlier, but he knows its sunday too lol

how did they fit? the only 1 7/8 stepped to 2" i found are kooks. i really like the stepped idea

The fit and finish is stupid nice. You will not be disapointed!

Floorman279 12-16-2018 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 20016852)


The fit and finish is stupid nice. You will not be disapointed!

yea from what i have read on this site, again the bad fitment could be from mount issues, but basically no issues with kooks or ARH. TSP are 80% no issues, 20% minimal issues, nothing major, speed engineering 50-50, hooker.......a few major fitment issues, not worth chancing, hooker isn't far off from ARH pricing, especially if tony is a dealer. pacesetters.....what the hell is a pacesetter......

Darth_V8r 12-16-2018 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Che70velle
I bought my ARH 2” headers through Tony. He will give you a great price with his head purchase. 2” primary’s will pick up power everywhere across your powerband. Proven many times over on back to back dyno runs.
edit...tell Tony you only want headers, not a y-pipe, or system. He will hook you up.

Treed. I was gonna say the same. When my headers rust through this is my plan

99 Black Bird T/A 12-18-2018 11:51 AM

What Chevelle said - 2 inch primary.

427 with Tony Mamo heads, Tony Mamo ported MSD intake, Tony Mamo spec'd cam - torque wont be an issue.

With that in mind, I'd ditch the stepped 1 7/8 to 2 inch for mid-range torque idea and just go 2 in primary for max power.

Floorman279 12-18-2018 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A (Post 20017630)
What Chevelle said - 2 inch primary.

427 with Tony Mamo heads, Tony Mamo ported MSD intake, Tony Mamo spec'd cam - torque wont be an issue.

With that in mind, I'd ditch the stepped 1 7/8 to 2 inch for mid-range torque idea and just go 2 in primary for max power.

tony said he has sometimes seen loss with stepped headers and advised for 2 as well

01CamaroSSTx 12-18-2018 08:11 PM

Get cooking with KOOKS headers!

Floorman279 12-18-2018 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx (Post 20017897)
Get cooking with KOOKS headers!

i call tick today cause they had a 1 day stupid low sale on kooks, pretty sure they were higher than normal lol

Darth_V8r 12-18-2018 08:57 PM

ARH might be an option?

01CamaroSSTx 12-18-2018 09:45 PM

One of the two if your looking for the high end headers. I'm curious about the TSP headers for fitment as I have 99 Camaro strip car build that's been put on the back burner for now and will be needing some headers one of these days.

Floorman279 12-19-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx (Post 20017948)
One of the two if your looking for the high end headers. I'm curious about the TSP headers for fitment as I have 99 Camaro strip car build that's been put on the back burner for now and will be needing some headers one of these days.

yea im probably going with ARH cause thats what i was leaning towards anyway.

from what i have read tsp are very similar to kooks, which basically have no issues

01CamaroSSTx 12-19-2018 06:03 PM

I went with KOOKS for the headers and their off-road dual exhaust set up and everything fit nicely and not to difficult to take on and off either. I've never ran this thing with open headers and am anxious to hear it once I get the new heads on it.


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