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Old 07-26-2004, 12:17 PM
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Default Way to go Legally to 01-02 EGRless system?

have a 1999 SS with a catted Y and want to keep it emissions fiendly. Is there a way to switch to the 01-02 system with out the EGr and stay legal. It will set codes if I remove the EGR, right/

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You must use Edit or HPTuners and change EGR=False. The engine light will go off. If anyone questions why you don't have an egr, you tell them you replaced the intake with a new year's version that doesn't include EGR (which is legal).
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Originally Posted by felton316
You must use Edit or HPTuners and change EGR=False. The engine light will go off. If anyone questions why you don't have an egr, you tell them you replaced the intake with a new year's version that doesn't include EGR (which is legal).

thanks for the tips. i do not mind leaving the air as my headers have the air fittings anyway. I can just remove the EGR and still be legal?



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whats your definition of "legal"?
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Well. I want to be emissions legal and smog friendly. I want to pass emissions easily also.



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You can easily pass emissions with no cats, AIR, or EGR. All you need is a little computer editing. Just rip out all the emissions **** you don't need it!
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Originally Posted by NufNuffZ28
Well. I want to be emissions legal and smog friendly. I want to pass emissions easily also.



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what type of emission? OBDII you'll pass but a visual you wont.
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If I keep the Air, but take off the EGr would I pass visual? It would look like a 01-02 setup. How wuld they know the difference? Can't you upgrade to a newer system?


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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
You can easily pass emissions with no cats, AIR, or EGR. All you need is a little computer editing. Just rip out all the emissions **** you don't need it!
i did that with my Iroc, but wanna keep this one street and inspection friendly
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Originally Posted by NufNuffZ28
If I keep the Air, but take off the EGr would I pass visual? It would look like a 01-02 setup. How wuld they know the difference? Can't you upgrade to a newer system?


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theres a sticker/label on your car that shows all your emissions system, all they gotta do is look at it to see your egr is missing. plus im sure they have it somewhere in there computer system a break down of what cars come with what emissions equipment.
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Originally Posted by felton316
You must use Edit or HPTuners and change EGR=False. The engine light will go off. If anyone questions why you don't have an egr, you tell them you replaced the intake with a new year's version that doesn't include EGR (which is legal).
That idea=poop.

The reason they don't have EGR is not because of the intake manifold. The reason they could get away with no EGR is due to the use of the truck cam which allowed more exhaust gas to stay in the engine without EGR. You need to keep all that stuff. But...if you did replace your engine with a newer one without EGR that would be completely legal...hmmm

Can anybody chime in on that? If you replace your engine with a newer engine that is legal...so what if it involves less smog stuff?
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That idea=poop.

The reason they don't have EGR is not because of the intake manifold. The reason they could get away with no EGR is due to the use of the truck cam which allowed more exhaust gas to stay in the engine without EGR. You need to keep all that stuff. But...if you did replace your engine with a newer one without EGR that would be completely legal...hmmm

Can anybody chime in on that? If you replace your engine with a newer engine that is legal...so what if it involves less smog stuff?
I am sure that even if you coudl get away with that you would have to do it and have proof. If you have plug in tests, get rid of emissions. If you have **** like visual inspections then keep them. It's not really worth that much effort IMO for AIR and EGR.
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90% of the time they wont even know as long as you have the egr codes deleted with edit, obdII wont know any better and as for the sticker? what sticker? must have fell off or washed off?
no air, no egr , no rear o2's, what the scanner doesnt see or know wont hurt it
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With emmissions test and engine swaps, you can swap in an engine of the same year or newer. You cant put an older engine into a newer vehicle. So when they see a 99 EGR-less LS1, all you do say it was replaced with a 01 or newer engine.
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Is this true in California too?
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Originally Posted by felton316
With emmissions test and engine swaps, you can swap in an engine of the same year or newer. You cant put an older engine into a newer vehicle. So when they see a 99 EGR-less LS1, all you do say it was replaced with a 01 or newer engine.
That would be tough to do in Cali. It used to be that you had to have the car "inspected" by a Smog Referee to such a wavier, from my understanding, it was a major PITA.

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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
That would be tough to do in Cali. It used to be that you had to have the car "inspected" by a Smog Referee to such a wavier, from my understanding, it was a major PITA.
Hmmm...I can hear the referee now...
"Technical foul on Camaro SS #1244, you're out of the game!"
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Originally Posted by Another_User
Hmmm...I can hear the referee now...
"Technical foul on Camaro SS #1244, you're out of the game!"
no just a 1month fix it or out for the season




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