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Gauge Apr 15, 2005 10:01 AM

What's considered a bolt-on?
 
Like the title says, I'm curious what people consider bolt-ons. The following I pretty much assume are "bolt-ons":

- Exhaust
- Induction (lid, bellows, TB, filter, and MAF)
- Pulleys
- Suspension


But are these?

- Springs/rockers
- Cam
- Heads
- Pushrods
- Intake manifold

Rok Apr 15, 2005 10:19 AM

I consider the intake a bolt-on, maybe the springs/rockers and pushrods could be. but the heads and cam are not.

Steve Burger Apr 15, 2005 10:31 AM

Normally, anything that does not touch oil. The exceptions are springs and rockers.

Realistically, whatever someone will believe.

gettinthere Apr 15, 2005 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Steve Burger
Normally, anything that does not touch oil.


My thoughts exactly. I say if you have to crack open the motor (intake manifold excluded) it's not a bolt on.

snake charmer Apr 15, 2005 12:34 PM

:stupid:

blkZ28spt Apr 15, 2005 01:18 PM

I don't even consider rockers a bolt-on. If it touches engine oil or is a power adder it's not a bolt-on. As for the rockers, think about it. You can add high ratio rockers that increase the lift of the cam, yet a cam isn't a bolt-on. Doesn't quite make sense to consider it a bolt-on IMO.

00Z28 Camaro Apr 15, 2005 01:20 PM

depends how you look at it , I can " bolt on" a supercharger :naughty:

blkZ28spt Apr 15, 2005 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by 00Z28 Camaro
depends how you look at it , I can " bolt on" a supercharger :naughty:

I guess if you just ignore or significantly alter the definition of a bolt-on.

Wnts2Go10O Apr 15, 2005 01:25 PM

o god, this again... to be politically correct everything on a motor is a bolt on:):jest: like bolting on a 408 or 422 twin 60 setup...

GuitsBoy Apr 15, 2005 03:08 PM

Im with the strict definition that a bolton does not touch oil. A full bolton car may never have had a valve cover off. Although I would say gears are a bolton mod since its not touching engine oil, but gear oil. Now is a built TH400 and 4800 stall converter considered a bolton? :)

blkZ28spt Apr 15, 2005 03:21 PM

I'd say a built TH400 and 4800 stall converter could be considered bolt-ons. Bolt-ons are usually power adding mods though. If it doesn't add power I don't think it can really be considered a "bolt-on", but is in another category of mods.

BBQLS1 Apr 15, 2005 03:21 PM

1. Valve covers must not be removed.
2. Everything, no farther than heads or cam.
3. Doesn't everything bolt on?

Nick D Apr 15, 2005 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by BBQLS1
1. Valve covers must not be removed.
2. Everything, no farther than heads or cam.
3. Doesn't everything bolt on?

EXACTLY

Deamon2002 Apr 16, 2005 02:21 AM

There is definetly a fine line here, IMO though rockers are a bolton, but then again thats just my opinion. What makes me think this way is the ease of which this modification can be done. Remove coils, valve covers and unbolt the rocker arm plate. Tada! Bolt on the new rockers to the plate and bolt that on top of your valves. Springs on the other hand step further into that other side of the line. Pushrods are right on par with the rockers though, at least thats what I think.

blkZ28spt Apr 16, 2005 02:33 AM

Ease of performing the mod doesn't/shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Deamon2002 Apr 16, 2005 05:12 AM

Again, just my opinion............

1FST99Z Apr 16, 2005 06:02 AM

hell I dont see why everyone is being so picky. how I see it you have to bolt all of those on. so they are all bolt on's to me..

blkZ28spt Apr 16, 2005 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by 1FST99Z
hell I dont see why everyone is being so picky. how I see it you have to bolt all of those on. so they are all bolt on's to me..

Right. So then everything is a bolt-on. What would the point of that be? :rolleyes:

davered00ss Apr 16, 2005 03:26 PM

Intake is a bolt on. Cam & springs is not.

psykoTA Apr 16, 2005 09:46 PM

What is a stall considered?

I figured bolt-ons were quick and easy mods. Not extensive.


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