Exhaust is more important than I knew, lost 85hp from exhaust!
05-12-2005, 06:45 PM
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Exhaust is more important than I knew, lost 85hp from exhaust! Well, I was down about 75 to 85 HP at least (same dyno, different days). Possibly a little more than that. I thought all kinds of problems were to blame. My transmission went out at the same time as my problems started so I thought that was the only thing to blame. A re-built,beefed up, 4000 stall'd tranny later and I am at the track running 8.8 @ 76 mph with a 1.9 60' (I normally run an 8.0 @ 86-87). Hmmm, I think, the tranny is good so maybe the motor is going out 
What didn't dawn on me however, was the fact that right before all of my problems started I had hit a bump and broke my muffler off. So to save on weight I had a bullet muffler installed with a turn-down right before my rear. My tranny was bad at the time so I blamed all my woes on that.I had to get the car to 2,000 RPM's before it would move. Well, after struggling to figure out how my motor could be running perfectly (according to the dyno and A-tap) while only putting out like 225hp, I was about ready to sell the car. 
To make a long story short, when I went to The Muffler Shop (on Remount RD for you Chas, SC guys) to put on the bullet muffler, I trusted them. I told them that I needed a high-flow 3" bullet muffler. What they put on (I dropped the car off and went to dinner) can only be described as a restrictor plate, maybe like they use in NASCAR. I asked for a STRAIGHT THROUGH 3" BULLET MUFFLER. Check out what they put on my car.If you're looking at that saying "man, that's small". Then you would be correct. It is about 3/4 of an inch around! Kudos to my wife Kris for pointing out that the muffler should be checked as a source of the problem. Today I went to a new muffler place and they pointed out something to me that I never noticed. When I installed my MAC headers about 2 years ago, I didn't get as big of a gain in HP as I was expecting. I put the headers on and drove to The Muffler Shop (only one I knew of at the time) 
to have a Y pipe made. Well, it was pointed out to me today why one of my banks runs a little rich and the other runs a little lean (a problem I have been dealing with for a while). When the idiots at the shop built my Y-pipe, they screwed up ROYALLY! A Y pipe is supposed to look like this "Y" notice how the two pipes smoothly go into one, keeping everything equal and flowing in the same direction?Well, mine looks like this pic below. Forgive me for my no-paint skills! LOL, but see how the drivers side bank is sending exhaust flow up towards the motor on the passenger side? So now I have to save up for a new Y-pipe..... Thanks to Kris again for the advice and the guys at Carolina Muffler and Brake for the expert advice. And if anyone needs exhaust work, STAY AWAY FROM THE MUFFLER SHOP on Remount Road in Charleston,SC!
What didn't dawn on me however, was the fact that right before all of my problems started I had hit a bump and broke my muffler off. So to save on weight I had a bullet muffler installed with a turn-down right before my rear. My tranny was bad at the time so I blamed all my woes on that.I had to get the car to 2,000 RPM's before it would move. Well, after struggling to figure out how my motor could be running perfectly (according to the dyno and A-tap) while only putting out like 225hp, I was about ready to sell the car. To make a long story short, when I went to The Muffler Shop (on Remount RD for you Chas, SC guys) to put on the bullet muffler, I trusted them. I told them that I needed a high-flow 3" bullet muffler. What they put on (I dropped the car off and went to dinner) can only be described as a restrictor plate, maybe like they use in NASCAR. I asked for a STRAIGHT THROUGH 3" BULLET MUFFLER. Check out what they put on my car.If you're looking at that saying "man, that's small". Then you would be correct. It is about 3/4 of an inch around! Kudos to my wife Kris for pointing out that the muffler should be checked as a source of the problem. Today I went to a new muffler place and they pointed out something to me that I never noticed. When I installed my MAC headers about 2 years ago, I didn't get as big of a gain in HP as I was expecting. I put the headers on and drove to The Muffler Shop (only one I knew of at the time) to have a Y pipe made. Well, it was pointed out to me today why one of my banks runs a little rich and the other runs a little lean (a problem I have been dealing with for a while). When the idiots at the shop built my Y-pipe, they screwed up ROYALLY! A Y pipe is supposed to look like this "Y" notice how the two pipes smoothly go into one, keeping everything equal and flowing in the same direction?Well, mine looks like this pic below. Forgive me for my no-paint skills! LOL, but see how the drivers side bank is sending exhaust flow up towards the motor on the passenger side? So now I have to save up for a new Y-pipe..... Thanks to Kris again for the advice and the guys at Carolina Muffler and Brake for the expert advice. And if anyone needs exhaust work, STAY AWAY FROM THE MUFFLER SHOP on Remount Road in Charleston,SC! 
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wow what a bunch of ********. glad you got it sorted out. Have you made any passes since the fix? I bet you'll be real happy now. 
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That is the biggest ******* piece of **** excuse for an exhaust i have EVER seen.
What were they thinking? I have never seen a bullet muffler with something like that in the middle, offset too.
That shop sucks monkey *********....give em a link to this thread
Glad you found your problem but you didnt look at their work before you left the shop
What were they thinking? I have never seen a bullet muffler with something like that in the middle, offset too.
That shop sucks monkey *********....give em a link to this thread
Glad you found your problem but you didnt look at their work before you left the shop
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05-17-2005, 02:13 PM
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That is one retarded ***-tacular y-pipe. What the hell were they thinking? The bullet... that's just beyond comprehension. Only thing that makes even a little sense is the guy doing the work was some import fan that did all this to intentionally **** you over. That, or that shop regularly hires complete waterheads.
05-17-2005, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rotwiler
Man. I am laughing so hard. Not at the way you were screwed, but the retard that asked if you have 2 of them on ebay. Also someone even bid on it.
05-26-2005, 08:44 AM
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Sorry it took so long to reply. The car is definately back again as far as power goes.The only downside is the sound. With a straight pipe, the car sounds pretty bad, but drives great (I can bark in 3rd again with my 4000 stall 
) The shop has refused any responsibility but we are still working the issue. A friend of mine came over and we got to looking into it more and not only was the pipe 3/4" in diameter inside the muffler, there is a baffle in the middle that looks sort of like this -----////------. I really don't know how my car even moved. I didn't know what was wrong,I only knew that the car was struggling to get above 5200 RPM's. Since I couldn't get any higher than that, the car wouldn't shift either. So now a LOT of my problems are solved (except my leaky radiator) and the car runs great. I am putting true duals on next month and that will fix the Y-pipe issue. I did look at the exhaust before I left the shop but from the outside, the bullet muffler looks like a 3" straight through muffler. I didn't even pay attention to the Y-pipe until it was pointed out to me! LOL, I need to learn to weld so I don't have to trust anyone to do any work for me anymore!
) The shop has refused any responsibility but we are still working the issue. A friend of mine came over and we got to looking into it more and not only was the pipe 3/4" in diameter inside the muffler, there is a baffle in the middle that looks sort of like this -----////------. I really don't know how my car even moved. I didn't know what was wrong,I only knew that the car was struggling to get above 5200 RPM's. Since I couldn't get any higher than that, the car wouldn't shift either. So now a LOT of my problems are solved (except my leaky radiator) and the car runs great. I am putting true duals on next month and that will fix the Y-pipe issue. I did look at the exhaust before I left the shop but from the outside, the bullet muffler looks like a 3" straight through muffler. I didn't even pay attention to the Y-pipe until it was pointed out to me! LOL, I need to learn to weld so I don't have to trust anyone to do any work for me anymore! 
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Originally Posted by rotwiler
Man. I am laughing so hard. Not at the way you were screwed, but the retard that asked if you have 2 of them on ebay. Also someone even bid on it.
05-29-2005, 02:24 PM
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Well, I was down about 75 to 85 HP at least (same dyno, different days). Possibly a little more than that. I thought all kinds of problems were to blame. My transmission went out at the same time as my problems started so I thought that was the only thing to blame. A re-built,beefed up, 4000 stall'd tranny later and I am at the track running 8.8 @ 76 mph with a 1.9 60' (I normally run an 8.0 @ 86-87). Hmmm, I think, the tranny is good so maybe the motor is going out What didn't dawn on me however, was the fact that right before all of my problems started I had hit a bump and broke my muffler off. So to save on weight I had a bullet muffler installed with a turn-down right before my rear. My tranny was bad at the time so I blamed all my woes on that.I had to get the car to 2,000 RPM's before it would move. Well, after struggling to figure out how my motor could be running perfectly (according to the dyno and A-tap) while only putting out like 225hp, I was about ready to sell the car. To make a long story short, when I went to The Muffler Shop (on Remount RD for you Chas, SC guys) to put on the bullet muffler, I trusted them. I told them that I needed a high-flow 3" bullet muffler. What they put on (I dropped the car off and went to dinner) can only be described as a restrictor plate, maybe like they use in NASCAR. I asked for a STRAIGHT THROUGH 3" BULLET MUFFLER. Check out what they put on my car.If you're looking at that saying "man, that's small". Then you would be correct. It is about 3/4 of an inch around! Kudos to my wife Kris for pointing out that the muffler should be checked as a source of the problem. Today I went to a new muffler place and they pointed out something to me that I never noticed. When I installed my MAC headers about 2 years ago, I didn't get as big of a gain in HP as I was expecting. I put the headers on and drove to The Muffler Shop (only one I knew of at the time) to have a Y pipe made. Well, it was pointed out to me today why one of my banks runs a little rich and the other runs a little lean (a problem I have been dealing with for a while). When the idiots at the shop built my Y-pipe, they screwed up ROYALLY! A Y pipe is supposed to look like this "Y" notice how the two pipes smoothly go into one, keeping everything equal and flowing in the same direction?Well, mine looks like this pic below. Forgive me for my no-paint skills! LOL, but see how the drivers side bank is sending exhaust flow up towards the motor on the passenger side? So now I have to save up for a new Y-pipe..... Thanks to Kris again for the advice and the guys at Carolina Muffler and Brake for the expert advice. And if anyone needs exhaust work, STAY AWAY FROM THE MUFFLER SHOP on Remount Road in Charleston,SC!
What didn't dawn on me however, was the fact that right before all of my problems started I had hit a bump and broke my muffler off. So to save on weight I had a bullet muffler installed with a turn-down right before my rear. My tranny was bad at the time so I blamed all my woes on that.I had to get the car to 2,000 RPM's before it would move. Well, after struggling to figure out how my motor could be running perfectly (according to the dyno and A-tap) while only putting out like 225hp, I was about ready to sell the car. To make a long story short, when I went to The Muffler Shop (on Remount RD for you Chas, SC guys) to put on the bullet muffler, I trusted them. I told them that I needed a high-flow 3" bullet muffler. What they put on (I dropped the car off and went to dinner) can only be described as a restrictor plate, maybe like they use in NASCAR. I asked for a STRAIGHT THROUGH 3" BULLET MUFFLER. Check out what they put on my car.If you're looking at that saying "man, that's small". Then you would be correct. It is about 3/4 of an inch around! Kudos to my wife Kris for pointing out that the muffler should be checked as a source of the problem. Today I went to a new muffler place and they pointed out something to me that I never noticed. When I installed my MAC headers about 2 years ago, I didn't get as big of a gain in HP as I was expecting. I put the headers on and drove to The Muffler Shop (only one I knew of at the time) to have a Y pipe made. Well, it was pointed out to me today why one of my banks runs a little rich and the other runs a little lean (a problem I have been dealing with for a while). When the idiots at the shop built my Y-pipe, they screwed up ROYALLY! A Y pipe is supposed to look like this "Y" notice how the two pipes smoothly go into one, keeping everything equal and flowing in the same direction?Well, mine looks like this pic below. Forgive me for my no-paint skills! LOL, but see how the drivers side bank is sending exhaust flow up towards the motor on the passenger side? So now I have to save up for a new Y-pipe..... Thanks to Kris again for the advice and the guys at Carolina Muffler and Brake for the expert advice. And if anyone needs exhaust work, STAY AWAY FROM THE MUFFLER SHOP on Remount Road in Charleston,SC!