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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Detroitmuscle
I don't think either will quite it down much, it'll just rid it of rasp and give a different tone. Might as well switch catbcks if you want it quieter.
Agreed.

And I wanted to add that the Loudmouth 2 is not going to be much quieter. It still has no muffler, just a single bullet that muffles the sound barely more. It WILL still be very loud.

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If you're running a LM, you can just get the mufflers that go with the LM II for about $70 a piece, and replace the resonators with the mufflers. Cheapest solution, and probably one of the best breathing exhausts still.
Not trying to pick you apart here or anything, but just wanted to correct some of that information:

There's only one "muffler" for the Loudmouth system (not 2) and it really isn't even a muffler. It's just a bullet and it really doesn't quiet it down much. We had a stock Z with LM right next to another Z with LM 2 and there was hardly a difference to tell you a truth. There was, but it wasn't much at all.



Bottom line: LSTSS02, If you replace the resonator/bullet with a small Magnaflow, Dynomax, or Borla muffler, it will still be very loud. Those smaller mufflers added to a loudmouth will change the tone mainly and muffle it a bit, but you're still going to be pretty raucious. Even adding a catted Y-pipe to your setup won't quiet it down a ton. As I said before, if you want it quieter and not just the tone changed, you may as well just sell your LM and buy another catback. This would be the simplest thing to do. In order of quietest to loudest on your setup would probably be: SLP Dual/Dual, Hooker or SLP 2OTL, Magnaflow.... everything other than that gets pretty ridiculous with LTs and an ORY. Good luck!
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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I am selling my 02 SS exhaust from SLP. It came witha a sticker that says 345HP so if your interested let me know. I replaced the whole thing with a Stainless Works system. PM me if ya want
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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I am selling my 02 SS exhaust from SLP. It came witha a sticker that says 345HP so if your interested let me know. I replaced the whole thing with a Stainless Works system. PM me if ya want
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This guy's exhaust should be the SLP Dual/Dual. Great flowing, great sounding exhaust (mine should arrive tomorrow ). It will be the quietest catback with LTs and an ORY, but will still be loud enough to let people know it's got some power.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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good advice scotty z. My LM 1 and Lts with the cam sets off alarms when I rev next to parked cars.
I need to grow up
I'm thinking about switching to Slp dual/dual or borla if I can come up with the $$.

I WAS going to replace the resonators with the bullets, but if it makes no diff on it, then I will have to switch exhausts.

Loud exhausts are for people who didn't buy a V8.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotty-Z
Not trying to pick you apart here or anything, but just wanted to correct some of that information:

There's only one "muffler" for the Loudmouth system (not 2) and it really isn't even a muffler. It's just a bullet and it really doesn't quiet it down much. We had a stock Z with LM right next to another Z with LM 2 and there was hardly a difference to tell you a truth. There was, but it wasn't much at all.
You're right. I have an original LM. I noticed that I made it plural in my post, but didn't think it was worth editing to fix...I'll know better next time I heard the LM II resonator was quieter (1/2-1" smaller diameter?), so I figured the bullet muffler would be even quieter. Personally, I love the reaction on people's faces when they hear the LM at WOT, and I love even more the awesome sound just winding it out and downshifting. Next I'm going TD with LM resonators.

[EDIT] Ditto on the car alarms; my wife just rolls her eyes while I chuckle a the sirens and Das Blinkin Lights.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 01:51 AM
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just replace the rea rsection with a muffler setup.. you can try a bulitt muffler in place of the resonator but they are not desgined to give you a quiet exhaust so it wont do that much .... in the end it all really depends how quiet you wanna go
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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Now that I have a few Heinekens in me, i'm thinking I should keep the LM. It was raspy before i got the cam. Now, It sounds like Godzilla is coming from a mile away. I love the response I get when i'm shifting at 6K on a busy street and pedestrians fall to their knees and bow their heads.
I'm just afraid of my foundation shifting when I cold start my car in my garage.

A turbo will make it quieter, right?
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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ITS ALL ABOUT HOW U LIKE IT. SOME PEOPLE DONT LIKE IT AS LOUD......................I LOVE THAT LOUD RAW SOUND.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TryingT/A
Now that I have a few Heinekens in me, i'm thinking I should keep the LM. It was raspy before i got the cam. Now, It sounds like Godzilla is coming from a mile away. I love the response I get when i'm shifting at 6K on a busy street and pedestrians fall to their knees and bow their heads.
I'm just afraid of my foundation shifting when I cold start my car in my garage.

A turbo will make it quieter, right?
Right and deeper, like a big block; and glad to see you've drunk the LM cool-aid. I prescribe two more heinekens

You must be having a lot of fun with those 4.10's and street tires Imagine what it could just porting the stock heads

Courageous Rev Limit for stock rod bolts and lifters
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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OK - so if i take the lm resonator out and replace it with a Borla XR1 round mufler will it sound good?

If so, which one is suggested? I went on the site and see there are a few of them.....main difference is length..........

any suggestions are helpful....

Thanks
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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The XR-1 pn#40085 is the one prescribed. I have one coming on the way ; i'll let everyone know how it ends up. ;o)
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Thanks fun Ls1, the lm is staying. Would rather put exhaust money toward a turbo.
Ported stock heads? I was planning to get some mongoose heads or something along the lines of 205, but would it be better to just port the stockers??<I'd still have to opt for pistons/rods, right?? The 4.10's are great all around, but take a toll on the street tires in the high rpms.
My shop told me to stick with stock rockers and lifters despite the raised rpm range. The hp curve starts to drop after 6200 rpm so I usually shift at 6K.
I have hit the 7k redline on a showoff rev, and it sounds sick!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TryingT/A
...Ported stock heads? I was planning to get some mongoose heads or something along the lines of 205, but would it be better to just port the stockers??<I'd still have to opt for pistons/rods, right??
If you've got the cash, it's hard to beat AFRs (especially since you won't have to wait as long as for ETs ). I think a lot of people under estimate what the stock LS1 heads can do hand-ported. There's a guy around here that will give you rebuilt, hand-ported heads for your set-up for $1700 and your original LS1 heads. If you want bigger than stock valve sizes you can give him a set of as-cast heads of your choosing up front.

If you plan on Turbos or a 500+ hp 346 set up, then there are some weaknesses in the stock bottom end that have been noted in a lot of posts. I don't think the rods are a problem, but the pistons and rod bolts can be. I think the two biggest weaknesses are the rod bolts stretching and the ring lands on the pistons breaking. If you add forged pistons and Katek rod bolts, you might as well get some H-Beam rods while you're at it, though. I'm going to try to get away with just new rod bolts, since my goal is about 435 rwhp N/A and I won't spray it that often...(yeah, right). I won't go forged until I put a stoker kit in it or replace it with a 402.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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Magnaflow is really good. normal cruising it isnt real loud, but when you really womp on it, WOW. heres a vid of LT's ORY, Magnaflow on my car at the track, at WOT of course-

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Heres one of it on the street @ WOT

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