Best flowing 3" catback?
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The only thing that makes the flowmasters flow poor numbers on our cars is the fact that they use theyre so called "Delta Technology" on a crossflow muffler. If u were to make you a custom system that goes out to the driverside it would be a lot better because its more of a straight shot from one side to the other. With the "Delta Flow" in a crossflow muffler its way to many turns for the exahust to flow freely enough. Its just the fact that the "Delta Flow" sucks in a crossflow style muffler.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by stang killer:
<strong>The only thing that makes the flowmasters flow poor numbers on our cars is the fact that they use theyre so called "Delta Technology" on a crossflow muffler. If u were to make you a custom system that goes out to the driverside it would be a lot better because its more of a straight shot from one side to the other. With the "Delta Flow" in a crossflow muffler its way to many turns for the exahust to flow freely enough. Its just the fact that the "Delta Flow" sucks in a crossflow style muffler.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the reason flowmasters don't flow well is not the fact that on our cars they are in a crossflow configuration this hurts flow but flowmaster would be less no matter what. they don't flow well. the hooker cat-back is in a crossflow configuration and it flows around 900 cfm as is the magnaflow cat-back which flows over 1000 as said above. if the magnaflow wasn't in the crossflow configuration it would flow about as much as the loudmouth. any setup will flow bettter if they were not in the crossflow style but there are not too many choices on our cars.
hell i bought a hooker aero chamber for a friends truck offset/center config. you could see damn near straight through it tell me how flowmaster would ever beat that.look at one of the flowmaster designs (there all about the same) if you have a offset/center config. the exhaust goes in make a 90 degree turn then has to make another 90 degree turn then the exhaust splits up goes around the baffle then collects in the center on the other side then out. just think if its an offset/offset config. the it has 2 more 90 degree turns at the end. thats why all flowmasters flow like crape. then just think if you add to the fact that you take that restrictive design and make it into a crossflow style then its gets even worse.
flowmaster sucks!!!!
don't waste you money on a flowmaster get the hooker cat-back better sound and better flow than flowmaster ever dreamed.
flowmaster makes me <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
by the way the flowmasters for our cars are not delta flows either but adding 2 little delta shaped baffles behind a big one doesn't do any good
<small>[ November 13, 2002, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Cody Brooks ]</small>
<strong>The only thing that makes the flowmasters flow poor numbers on our cars is the fact that they use theyre so called "Delta Technology" on a crossflow muffler. If u were to make you a custom system that goes out to the driverside it would be a lot better because its more of a straight shot from one side to the other. With the "Delta Flow" in a crossflow muffler its way to many turns for the exahust to flow freely enough. Its just the fact that the "Delta Flow" sucks in a crossflow style muffler.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the reason flowmasters don't flow well is not the fact that on our cars they are in a crossflow configuration this hurts flow but flowmaster would be less no matter what. they don't flow well. the hooker cat-back is in a crossflow configuration and it flows around 900 cfm as is the magnaflow cat-back which flows over 1000 as said above. if the magnaflow wasn't in the crossflow configuration it would flow about as much as the loudmouth. any setup will flow bettter if they were not in the crossflow style but there are not too many choices on our cars.
hell i bought a hooker aero chamber for a friends truck offset/center config. you could see damn near straight through it tell me how flowmaster would ever beat that.look at one of the flowmaster designs (there all about the same) if you have a offset/center config. the exhaust goes in make a 90 degree turn then has to make another 90 degree turn then the exhaust splits up goes around the baffle then collects in the center on the other side then out. just think if its an offset/offset config. the it has 2 more 90 degree turns at the end. thats why all flowmasters flow like crape. then just think if you add to the fact that you take that restrictive design and make it into a crossflow style then its gets even worse.
flowmaster sucks!!!!
don't waste you money on a flowmaster get the hooker cat-back better sound and better flow than flowmaster ever dreamed.
flowmaster makes me <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
by the way the flowmasters for our cars are not delta flows either but adding 2 little delta shaped baffles behind a big one doesn't do any good
<small>[ November 13, 2002, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Cody Brooks ]</small>
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what about the slp dual dual, dose anyone have any info comparing it to either the slp loudmouth or the b&b catback?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NO F-BDY BS:
"I think it was CAMAROLS1 that called me a troll, well, you can blow me, kiss my ***, get bent,suck my dick,ect."
"...just because this is your first sports car."
That isn't even worth a rebuttal. I'm not going to ruin a quality post over a guy with 2 posts. For your info junior, this is my 2nd LS1 and my 5th sports car.
"I think it was CAMAROLS1 that called me a troll, well, you can blow me, kiss my ***, get bent,suck my dick,ect."
"...just because this is your first sports car."
That isn't even worth a rebuttal. I'm not going to ruin a quality post over a guy with 2 posts. For your info junior, this is my 2nd LS1 and my 5th sports car.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris Spiess:
<strong>Nobody has mentioned Dynomax. The straight through Ultra Flo mufflers flow very well, they're inexpensive - I pieced together my cat-back for less than $200 - and sound decent.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dynomouth = Dynomax Bullets in I-pipe.
<strong>Nobody has mentioned Dynomax. The straight through Ultra Flo mufflers flow very well, they're inexpensive - I pieced together my cat-back for less than $200 - and sound decent.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dynomouth = Dynomax Bullets in I-pipe.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by camaro_ls1:
That isn't even worth a rebuttal. I'm not going to ruin a quality post over a guy with 2 posts. For your info junior, this is my 2nd LS1 and my 5th sports car.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">]
If this is your 5th car, then you havent paid attention, The guy asked a question, I answered it, and you thought you would talk some **** to the new guy just because of a low post count,without contributing anything to the original question. Can you honestly argue with anything I said? Do you really think that there is one Cat-back system that will make or break your car? Are u the same person that will argue a K&N filter over a Holly Powershot??
That isn't even worth a rebuttal. I'm not going to ruin a quality post over a guy with 2 posts. For your info junior, this is my 2nd LS1 and my 5th sports car.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">]
If this is your 5th car, then you havent paid attention, The guy asked a question, I answered it, and you thought you would talk some **** to the new guy just because of a low post count,without contributing anything to the original question. Can you honestly argue with anything I said? Do you really think that there is one Cat-back system that will make or break your car? Are u the same person that will argue a K&N filter over a Holly Powershot??
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The Hooker cat-back flows and sounds great especially with headers and no cats.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BLKTA:
<strong>The Hooker cat-back flows and sounds great especially with headers and no cats.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> thats true <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>The Hooker cat-back flows and sounds great especially with headers and no cats.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> thats true <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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how good does the SLP T.O.L sound?i know its a flow-through design.i have never heard it on an LS1.they sound awesome on an LT1.please let me know because i wanna get long-tubes,off-road pipe,and a catback system.i dont want that loud raucus caused by the loudmouth,and i dont wanna give up my right ******** to buy a catback like Borla or corsa.
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The dual/dual has been brought up twice and nobody's responded so I'll chime in. The realon the dual/dual is so unpopular is because its so damned quiet, precisely the reason I bought it. It flow with the best of them (except LM) and sounds great with LTs and ORY. And you hardly get any of that rasp most people are plagued with.
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The Random Tech Catback is a straight thru design for the left pipe with a "bleed-off" for the right pipe. Has shown a 16rwhp increase. Sells for about $320 at Thunder.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ratio411:
<strong>The Loudmouth is the best flowing. 2200+ cfm.
Magnaflow at about 1100 cfm.
Flowmaster 350 cfm
Borla flows around 900 cfm.
Dave</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What about GMMG and Corsa?
<strong>The Loudmouth is the best flowing. 2200+ cfm.
Magnaflow at about 1100 cfm.
Flowmaster 350 cfm
Borla flows around 900 cfm.
Dave</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What about GMMG and Corsa?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Info_Doc:
<strong>What about GMMG and Corsa?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't know those. I got my data from XTrooper, a mod on LS1.com. He posted a list with lots of flow numbers. I just remember the ones that really stuck out... Like Flowmaster flowing so low, Magnaflow being the highest flowing crossflow set-up, Borla and Hooker just because the are so popular, and the LM/bullets because they flow like open 3" pipe.
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<strong>What about GMMG and Corsa?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't know those. I got my data from XTrooper, a mod on LS1.com. He posted a list with lots of flow numbers. I just remember the ones that really stuck out... Like Flowmaster flowing so low, Magnaflow being the highest flowing crossflow set-up, Borla and Hooker just because the are so popular, and the LM/bullets because they flow like open 3" pipe.
Dave