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Old 03-24-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Getting exhaust put on on Monday, need this question answered pretty quick...

I am getting my duals put on on monday and I was confident I knew exactly what I wanted, but I just read this over on the performance trucks site, and if it's true I may want to go with an H pipe instead of an X pipe.

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"h is usually deeper and louder at idle, makes a lil more tq but less hp
x is usually not as deep but louder at wot, more hp but less tq than h

^^ just the basic generalization, but many times its been shown that theirs really no difference hardly noticable in either one save for maybe the sound.

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I can tell you from personal experience that an H-pipe is deeper sounding than an X-pipe. I have switched between the 2 twice on my car and the X-pipe is noticeably raspier than the H-pipe, and the H-pipe sounds much better with chambered mufflers, so if you want Flowmasters or MAC mufflers, get an H-pipe. As far as power differences I have seen articles that prove there is no real difference in power between the 2 even though some people claim otherwise. I recommend you buy for sound because the power difference, if there is any, is negligible."

And I was planning on getting flowmaster 1 chambers too..
Old 03-24-2007, 10:55 PM
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this is somewhat true,if you want the exotic sound go x.imo one is no louder than the other
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So how true is the "the power difference, if there is any, is negligible"?

I want the sound to be deep and powerful with no rasp, and I'm getting chambered flowmasters. Thats why I dont like the "X-pipe is noticeably raspier than the H-pipe, and the H-pipe sounds much better with chambered mufflers."
Old 03-24-2007, 11:19 PM
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the x pipe will be more loud and raspy

i have hooker 1 3/4 headers and duals - 3 inch h pipe to twister mufflers. and the h at idle and cruising is deep, but not loud, i can hold a normal conversation in my car. little to moderate throttle is rich and deep, wot haha, thats the fun, loud, deep and nasty. i dont know what the hp difference is, prob anywhere from 5-15 hp depending on your set up. i love my h pipe set up thou.
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Ok, so people were telling me there was no rasp with duals, but everyone I've heard so far has said that the X is raspier than the H. So I'm confused. How can the X be raspier if people were saying that duals didn't have any rasp?
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My vette from the factory had an H pipe. I bought a magnaflow X pipe and put on it. The X pipe made it quiet. The H is for sure louder.
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Well thats good. I want fairly tame under idle/cruising rpms.

What about the raspiness? I still don't get how you can have more of something there is none of? lol. Could someone explain what they mean?
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You will have more rasp with the H pipe. I don't know why but the Xpipe takes alot of the rasp out and makes it more quiet. I was running the stock Hpipe with Borla straight pipes with the stock cats. Believe it or not when i put the new Xpipe on I hated it because it made it sound so quiet and tame. I sure the hell wasn't going to junk my new Xpipe so I janked the cats off to get the sound I wanted. The one thing I do like about the X is that the sound is cleaner. It doesn't have the pop sound that the H has and the sound has a more equal tone with the Xpipe.
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Talk about conflicting accounts.

My advise is to try and listen to each, find what you think sounds best. Power will probably be negligible between the two.
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i have an x pipe and its loud but yet low with a tameee rumblee when i get on it, im running magnaflow bullits.. icouldnt be happier, i get compliments everywere i go! i would recomend that set up to anyone
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I heard/rode in a X pipe Sweet Thunder and an H pipe 1-chamber car, both cammed. The X pipe car screamed and was a lot louder. The H pipe car was still loud, but a lot deeper. So by my observations the X pipe car was louder.
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Here is what the Xpipe sounds like on a vette. I have LTs with no cats and two dynomax bullets. It's 2 1/2 all the way from the headers. I don't know but it may sound differant on a vette.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdSyrp_1mK0
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Originally Posted by sickws698
i have an x pipe and its loud but yet low with a tameee rumblee when i get on it, im running magnaflow bullits.. icouldnt be happier, i get compliments everywere i go! i would recomend that set up to anyone
This Friday I am getting true dual 3 inch exhaust from my Kooks catted lt's back with a Magnaflow stamped x pipe and the Magnaflow 3 in 3 out 4 inch case bulllets I have nothing to compare it to. Do you think I'll be happy with this setup? I like loud but my straight 3 into 2.5 pipes sounded real sloppy.




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