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Old 01-09-2008, 05:55 AM
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I just bought a 99 lsa t/a and I'm gonna do true duals but I need to find 02 sims and it seems like no one makes them anymore. Not even caspers, why? Oh btw florida doesnt have emissions anymore so I'm also gonna do a x pipe and l/t headers but that's basically it oh and a CAI. Thanks in advance guys

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They can't sell them or produce them anymore thanks to the EPA banning them. There was a post on here a while back if you want to search for it so that you can read up on what exactly was said.
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Yeah they got hosed, you can still find some members who have them for sale. If you can not find any, just go get a good tune and while they are in there you can have your rear o2s cut off.
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Ah that's what happened I've been out of the "02 sim game" for so long I didnt know. I actually have a old caspers from my 02 s10 that didnt work very well cause the 4.3 are very finicky when it comes to that. I also wanna do true duals no cats, Theres a dyno in rivera beach that I'm assuming can do it. Oh Is there such a thing has a custom pcm? Who makes them for our cars? I dont know if you guys have ever heard of such places such has zzp and dhp, They make pcm's for gp's, dhp also makes a pcm interface that you can tune every concievable parameter. Anyways thanks in advance.



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The only custom pcm's I can think of that would be worth the money would be the Fast or Big Stuff 3 or you could find someone with HPtuners or LS1Edit to do it from a laptop. Anyone that can dynotune can delete all that needs to be deleted. I'm sure most of them already know or have a preset tune that they use on vehicles.
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Originally Posted by onebadazzls1ta
Ah that's what happened I've been out of the "02 sim game" for so long I didnt know. I actually have a old caspers from my 02 s10 that didnt work very well cause the 4.3 are very finicky when it comes to that. I also wanna do true duals no cats, Theres a dyno in rivera beach that I'm assuming can do it. Oh Is there such a thing has a custom pcm? Who makes them for our cars? I dont know if you guys have ever heard of such places such has zzp and dhp, They make pcm's for gp's, dhp also makes a pcm interface that you can tune every concievable parameter. Anyways thanks in advance.



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Yes, if you can find a shop with a dyno they can take car of the o2s. As far as a custom pcm, a shop will just tune your stock pcm with hp tuners, ls1 edit, ect.... You dont need to buy a whole new pcm.
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SIMS = Illegal
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So they can't be sold brand new anymore, but I assume they can still be sold used through the forum right? I shouldn't have a need for mine come spring time.
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Well, I have (1) SIMMS and (2) a copy of LS1 Edit software that allows you to turn off the O2s.

My PCM had to be replaced by GM recently, and I am glad I had the SIMMS on the car since the new PCM would have thrown a code and caused the GM dealer to reject the claim and not work on the car.
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just go to a shop and get them deleted or get a street tune!
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i think a tune would have been the way to go anyway. i remember seeing that a few guys still had a check engine light after getting the sims,

but as far as Caspers goes, yeah they got about shut down. I wrote my final in Political Science on that this year and how it was an invasion on the free-market system. stupid EPA
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I'm interested in whether or not you can sell sims privately. I have a pair in great condition but I'm not in the position to sell them if it could come back and bite me.
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I know some websites still have them to purchase. I didnt know they were illigal.I just did my LT with TD
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You cannot legally sell used cat convertors under a federal prohibition either but people still do it.

I'm not an electrical engineer but I assume the SIMMS are made from a few common electrical components such as resistors and such.
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Easiest option would be to find a sponsor that is close to you, and go and have them turned off(and maybe get a tune if you need it).

If you realy want the SIMS, you can try to find someone selling a used pair, try to find a website that still sells them, or make them yourself. Do a search on google and you will find the parts that are needed to make them. All you are doing is splicing the O2 harness and putting a couple of resisters in there.
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i have 2 o2 sims bramd new in the box i will sell 75 shipped

i never used em cuz i got bungs welded in mine..not installed yet lol

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Next they willl outlaw the skip-shift eliminators too. They are merely electrical resistors too.
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There is a write up on some site about how to make your own sims. IIRC it is pretty much just some resistors nothing special.




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