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ae13291 Jun 13, 2008 05:59 PM

would new ceramic headers mess up o2's???
 
i just ordered some pacesetter ceramic long tubes and ORY and i heard from some people that you must let the ceramic in the header break. if the o2's are in during the break in the o2 will be damaged from the harmful fumes. is this true?? so should i disconnect the front o2's and run open loop mode for a few heat cycles?? thanks guys

ae13291 Jun 13, 2008 07:17 PM

anybody???

fortmyerspolice Jun 13, 2008 07:50 PM

I didn't, they work fine

Pntbll309 Jun 13, 2008 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by ae13291 (Post 9551297)
i just ordered some pacesetter ceramic long tubes and ORY and i heard from some people that you must let the ceramic in the header break. if the o2's are in during the break in the o2 will be damaged from the harmful fumes. is this true?? so should i disconnect the front o2's and run open loop mode for a few heat cycles?? thanks guys

Correct. The Ceramic will burn off some, that can cause the o2's to go bad. Chances arent high tho. But it could do it. As for running in open loop, not sure.But the car would run like shit, and itll take some time to burn off. Also since your doing an ORY you will need the rear o2's tuned out, that gives you an extra pair right there.

ravensfan Jun 13, 2008 08:15 PM

forgive me, but they are ceramic COATED? Doesnt that mean the outside of the header? If so, then your O2 sensors will be fine...

ae13291 Jun 13, 2008 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by ravensfan (Post 9551926)
forgive me, but they are ceramic COATED? Doesnt that mean the outside of the header? If so, then your O2 sensors will be fine...

yea there the pacesetter, but i heard people with the same problem with this header. better to be safe then sorry u know!

ae13291 Jun 13, 2008 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Pntbll309 (Post 9551916)
Correct. The Ceramic will burn off some, that can cause the o2's to go bad. Chances arent high tho. But it could do it. As for running in open loop, not sure.But the car would run like shit, and itll take some time to burn off. Also since your doing an ORY you will need the rear o2's tuned out, that gives you an extra pair right there.

i guess ill just connect them up, or leave them open for the first heat cycle

9000th01ss Jun 13, 2008 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by ravensfan (Post 9551926)
forgive me, but they are ceramic COATED?

Yea Pacesetter calls it Armor*Coat, it's ceramic.


Originally Posted by ravensfan (Post 9551926)
Doesnt that mean the outside of the header?

No, most quality headers are coated on the inside too.


Originally Posted by ravensfan (Post 9551926)
If so, then your O2 sensors will be fine...

Maybe, maybe not it's a mystery.

ae13291 Jun 14, 2008 01:40 AM

i will pplug the o2 holes up for the first heat cycle

NHRAMAN Jun 14, 2008 01:54 AM

mine are coated inside also....no problems.....2 years now,,,,,:nod

ChocoTaco369 Jun 14, 2008 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by ravensfan (Post 9551926)
forgive me, but they are ceramic COATED? Doesnt that mean the outside of the header? If so, then your O2 sensors will be fine...

Even if the inside of the headers weren't coated and only the outside was, the 400+ degree temperatures they'd reach would initially burn the outside, too, just not as severely.

I wouldn't worry about the O2's. If you left the O2's out to break in the headers, the amount of gas mileage you'd lose at $4 a gallon would be able to buy you a new set of O2's :lol:

Pntbll309 Jun 14, 2008 02:06 AM

I got a spare set of o2s for cheap if you end up needing them.

ae13291 Jun 14, 2008 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by Pntbll309 (Post 9553457)
I got a spare set of o2s for cheap if you end up needing them.

i actually have gutted cats now so i tuned my rear o2's out a while back, i still have those sensors. il jus keep the o2's in there i guess, but thanks everybody. also is contact cleaner good to clean the o2 sensor with??

ravensfan Jun 14, 2008 07:02 AM

Hmmm, learned something, I always thought only the outsides were coated. Cool:chug:


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