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wantsum410 Aug 20, 2009 09:26 AM

Flycutting guru's come in!!please
 
I am looking to change my h/c set up .now running ms3/prc5.3's .430rwh/380tq.all bolt ons & fast 92/92.i am looking for close to 5oo rwh and around 340 tq.that said i am looking at a cartek 4x set from a board mbr.i need to know about flycutting the pistons.this ls1 m6 is in my '72 ss camaro and i have done all fabricating install h/c /oil pump/tm chn/ect.never flucutting pistons.i will ad rod bolts when mtr is down. Thanks for all all input.:d

PREDATOR-Z Aug 20, 2009 10:26 AM

Here you go but please try using search button next time (reminds me of JRP)

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ee-almost.html

wantsum410 Aug 20, 2009 10:52 AM

flucutting
 
:Di did the first time & only brought up my post .after 2/3 more tries i got more results with best in my op from ls1 formulations.note there was only 1 perfect man to ever walk this earth!and he was not so quick to judge anyone !:D

slt200mph Aug 20, 2009 10:57 AM

Geeeze dude ... :eyes: ... lighten up ... nobody is breakin your balls .... the man was just pointing out to you the search function ... you would be surprised at what you can find when you use it... :D

PREDATOR-Z Aug 20, 2009 11:25 AM

Not judging you, but there is a plathera of stickies and threads, fully detailed about that topic.

Type "flycutting" into "search this forum"
Click search
Read

And leave JC alone, amongst his many qualities was respect, patience, intelligence ..... ~

Jon@Texas-Speed Aug 20, 2009 11:38 AM

I would definitely recommend using the Isky tools for flycutting and using a head with the seat cut out of it. I wouldn't recommend cutting your pistons with sanding wheels and using a wrench for a depth measurement! :roll: Your valve reliefs need to be larger than the valve and you need to know how deep you a cutting the relief into the piston. I'll see if I can find you a link of the correct way to cut reliefs. Kevin Doe had a nice thread on it but the pics no longer work.

Something like this needs to be done with the proper tools. Making that kind of numbers is not cheap. Do it right and ensure you won't have any headaches down the road.

Jon

PREDATOR-Z Aug 20, 2009 11:50 AM

Jon don't knock it off unless you've tried it, it works really well ;)

Here is another thread with "proper" tools (sticky)

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...t-pistons.html

Red99TA Aug 20, 2009 12:19 PM

Or just use the Lindy tool and you don't have to cut out any valve seats. Do a search for "lindy tool" and "flycut" and you'll find what you need. It worked great on my build.

LS1Formulation Aug 20, 2009 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jon@Texas-Speed (Post 12100161)
I would definitely recommend using the Isky tools for flycutting and using a head with the seat cut out of it. I wouldn't recommend cutting your pistons with sanding wheels and using a wrench for a depth measurement! :roll: Your valve reliefs need to be larger than the valve and you need to know how deep you a cutting the relief into the piston. I'll see if I can find you a link of the correct way to cut reliefs. Kevin Doe had a nice thread on it but the pics no longer work.

Something like this needs to be done with the proper tools. Making that kind of numbers is not cheap. Do it right and ensure you won't have any headaches down the road.

Jon

Of course you would, and I would bet you either rent or sell those tools as well. Not everyone is rolling in cash and my method works damn well for what it is. Don't make ignorant comments about the fact that we used a wrench for measurement, it was mic'ed at .080 thick and gave us easy, repeatable results on every valve. And yes, the valve guide height was checked and within .002 across the board. Everything was measured multiple times and every valve relief was hand finished so there would be no issues down the road. It was not a half assed, backwoods modification. Hot rodding came from normal people like me making things work with what they had, so please don't act like there's only one way to skin a cat here.

wantsum410 Aug 20, 2009 01:25 PM

F/c
 
THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT!!AS I SAID I DID A SEARCH ,IT DID NOT BRING UP BUT 1 POSTS /MINE FOR FLYCUUTING PISTONS.AFTER A COUPLE MORE WALA.THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP.:nod:I AM RUNNING MS3/PRC5.3,M6 ALL BOLT ONS,FAST 92/92.'72 SS CAMARO,430RWH...380TQ...DYNOJET,4:56'S,DRAGLITES,5 2 PERC HUMIDITY.REALLY EXPECTED MORE?11.53 BEST PASS ,7.31 1/8.LOOKING AT A CARTEK 4X SET UP MABYE.

Jon@Texas-Speed Aug 20, 2009 01:31 PM

Actually, we don't sell or rent any flycutting tools. If we did, I would have told him to give us a call and we'll get him fixed up. I don't think there was anything ignorant about my post. IMO, for someone looking for the kind of power the OP is looking at, it is worth the money to purchase/rent the correct tools for the job. It's not a cheap build to make 500 to the ground. I would hope he has the money to do it correctly if he is really trying for that kind of number.

I'm very aware that this process worked for you. However, I think using the proper tools eliminates several variables. For someone inexperienced in flycutting, I would always recommend the proper procedures rather than using a pieced together method. I'm sorry that offends you. It wasn't meant to.

Jon

405HP_Z06 Aug 20, 2009 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Red99TA (Post 12100347)
Or just use the Lindy tool and you don't have to cut out any valve seats. Do a search for "lindy tool" and "flycut" and you'll find what you need. It worked great on my build.

Agree, the Lindy IHPC is the best flycutting tool.


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