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Nimitz87 Aug 24, 2009 07:25 PM

Dart 205's on a 408?
 
are these to small? I have them already, if money was no object I'd spring for some TFS 235's and mill them down to 64cc.

these are BONE STOCK darts, I would of course have them cleaned up a bit, which I have heard makes a drastic difference with these heads.

rest of the setup

SCR 12:1
DCR 8.55:1

iron block
4.030 diamond 6cc dish
callies compstar rods
callies compstar crank
248/252 .625/.625 112 +2
HS rockers
morel lifters
fast 90/90
42lb inj.
Meizere EWP
TSP 1 7/8" headers
TSP true duals w/ bullets

what kind of power could I expect to make with these heads? or will it just choke the motor ?

I also plan on a healthy shot of spray on top...2 stages.

Chad

MasterMindMotorsport Aug 24, 2009 07:45 PM

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SOMbitch Aug 25, 2009 06:31 PM

The 225's are a much better choice on a 4.0" bore.

Nimitz87 Aug 25, 2009 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by SOMbitch (Post 12126240)
The 225's are a much better choice on a 4.0" bore.

well aware of this....just wondering how much some worked over 205's will hurt this setup...what kind of power could I expect to make?

Chad

vettenuts Aug 25, 2009 06:59 PM

There are a couple of place that can make these work, but as they stand I think they would hold back a motor that size.

Nimitz87 Aug 25, 2009 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by vettenuts (Post 12126358)
There are a couple of place that can make these work, but as they stand I think they would hold back a motor that size.

such as ?

I know of brett bauer is a big porter of darts.

Chad

vettenuts Aug 26, 2009 06:47 PM

That is one person who I had in mind although he prefers the 225's as the starting point but he would be worth contacting.

SOMbitch Aug 26, 2009 10:55 PM

Tough spot. If the rest of your setup didn't look so nice I would say get a VJ and run them......Damn.....Maybe see if you can get a deal on some used AFR 225's and sell the Darts......Or a new set of Dart 225's are reasonable but sometimes they need a lot of VJ work as is so.....I dunno.....

Nimitz87 Aug 26, 2009 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by SOMbitch (Post 12133662)
Tough spot. If the rest of your setup didn't look so nice I would say get a VJ and run them......Damn.....Maybe see if you can get a deal on some used AFR 225's and sell the Darts......Or a new set of Dart 225's are reasonable but sometimes they need a lot of VJ work as is so.....I dunno.....

I'm really thinking about just biting the bullet, saving up some more dough and getting the right heads...TFS 235's milled :devil:

but then that brings up another question...I know alot of guys mill these heads down and don't suffer any loss of flow, but how low is "to low" ?

Chad

SOMbitch Aug 26, 2009 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Nimitz87 (Post 12133692)
I'm really thinking about just biting the bullet, saving up some more dough and getting the right heads...TFS 235's milled :devil:

but then that brings up another question...I know alot of guys mill these heads down and don't suffer any loss of flow, but how low is "to low" ?

Chad

In the long run TFS will not disapoint you. This way you will never be second guessing yourself or be dissapointed when you get your timeslip. Smart move:D Believe me that SUCKS!!

waterbug1999 Aug 26, 2009 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by Nimitz87 (Post 12126383)
such as ?

I know of brett bauer is a big porter of darts.

Chad

Im sure he does awesome work.. He wanted 2G's to do my 205's, at that cost, and the cost I paid for them you could get a really top notch set of heads.

Nimitz87 Aug 27, 2009 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by SOMbitch (Post 12133743)
In the long run TFS will not disapoint you. This way you will never be second guessing yourself or be dissapointed when you get your timeslip. Smart move:D Believe me that SUCKS!!

yeah I hear you...just makes the build more and more $$$$$$$$$$


Originally Posted by waterbug1999 (Post 12133771)
Im sure he does awesome work.. He wanted 2G's to do my 205's, at that cost, and the cost I paid for them you could get a really top notch set of heads.

Jesus!, like you said for that money I could go buy some TFS's and a 90/90 almost.

Chad

waterbug1999 Aug 27, 2009 12:28 AM

FMS does some work to them as well... The quoted a little lower but still too much for the HP I would pick up.


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