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Old 12-05-2009, 03:12 PM
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Default How long will my valve springs last me?

I have a trex cam with patriot dual dual springs rated up to .660 lift. Trex cam specs 242/248 - .608/.612 - 110 lsa .

I hardly ever go WOT in my car, I might do a short 3-5 second sprint once or twice a week. I havent raced it in about 7 months. Any idea how long my springs should last at this rate?
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I would think 20-25k miles...
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Damn thats a pretty short while, TSP told me like 30k on a MS4 that has .649 lift
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Thats just IMO I run the **** out of mine though...
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Ah well thanks for the advice, I hardly ever get on my car really. I dont think Ive gone WOT in like 2 months now.... mainly cause of the weather though.
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That is a tough question... I have a 228/232 .588/.595 cam using PRC dual valve springs and I have 9K miles on my cam...

I guess you get a different answer from everyone. They say street use takes away life of the springs. But that is all I use my car for is the street. My car is not a DD....
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same here prc duals here.I broke my crane duals outer spring#2 exh.vlv. a couple months ago.
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Originally Posted by 35th SS
same here prc duals here.I broke my crane duals outer spring#2 exh.vlv. a couple months ago.
How long did they last you? You make considerable more power then me too.
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just to clarify...

whether you're WOT or cruising around town...you're cam is still operating at the same amount of lift....just not as often.


just because you're babying it...doesn't mean the valves aren't opening all the way.
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Who installed the springs? Was spring height checked? Shimmed?

If they were just a drop in with no checking/shimming, I'd replace them no later than 20K at a time.
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Yes they were shimmed and installed correctly, I have heard so many different mileage claims. How will I even know when my springs are worn? Sorry for the questions but this is my first cammed LS1 with a rather large cam and I will be driving it 900 miles back to south florida in a few months so I am just worried if I should get the springs replaced now or just ride it out. Thanks for the help so far.
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should be fine for a road trip.

worse case senario is you'd get some valve float in the upper rpm....which isn't a big deal on a road trip as long as you drive conservatively.

and honestly...the only way to really know (shy of seeing valve float on a dyno) would be to pull some springs and test them.


i guess that still doesn't guarantee they won't break....but when can you ever be sure of that?
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I would say 30k miles. Sometimes when a car sits there and keeps the springs compressed it can weaken the spring. Also if you beat on the car all the time, well it puts a little strain on them as well.
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Originally Posted by LSXracing
I would say 30k miles. Sometimes when a car sits there and keeps the springs compressed it can weaken the spring. Also if you beat on the car all the time, well it puts a little strain on them as well.
Well the springs always have pressure on them, then when the engine is running even more pressure is exerted on them so what difference does that make?
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I have 33K and around 300 runs on the track on the dual springs that came with my AFR 205s. That being said I'll be upgrading to PAC 1521's along with Morel lifters and Yella Terra roller rockers during my down time this winter.
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Originally Posted by USArmyZ28
Well the springs always have pressure on them, then when the engine is running even more pressure is exerted on them so what difference does that make?
Because a couple random springs will sit there at full compression is what he means.....
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Because a couple random springs will sit there at full compression is what he means.....
Oh yeah true, well I stored it at my girl friends house in her garage and they will turn the car on twice a week for a minute or two. Well it looks like the guy above you went 33k miles with hard use. Even though its a smaller cam the lift is pretty close to it.
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Because a couple random springs will sit there at full compression is what he means.....

Oh yeah true I didnt think of that, well I stored it at my girl friends house and they will turn it on twice a week for about a minute or so to avoid that and hopefully to keep the battery charged up for a while.
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
I have 33K and around 300 runs on the track on the dual springs that came with my AFR 205s. That being said I'll be upgrading to PAC 1521's along with Morel lifters and Yella Terra roller rockers during my down time this winter.
33k miles an still going, even though your cam is a smaller the lift is still pretty close to it. I guess its sort of like a clutch, never really know when the ******* are gonna go out. Thanks for advice so far everyone.
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Originally Posted by USArmyZ28
Oh yeah true, well I stored it at my girl friends house in her garage and they will turn the car on twice a week for a minute or two.
This should be done even when running stock springs. Just start the car at least once week and run it for a few minutes till it gets up to temp for the T-stat to open and let some coolant flow..

Alot of guys just let cars sit for 5 months and then wonder why **** breaks.


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