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Old 05-24-2010, 11:40 PM
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Default Whats the largest cam I can run with LS6 heads milled .030 without P/V issues?

I wanna run the 231 /237 589 /595 112 or the 232/234 (torquer 2). Will the p/v clearence be an issue with either of these cams? Who's is running a similar setup? I have stock gm head gaskets. Im running a 225 /225 cam in car now.
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The math fails me on this one but a stock height LS6 head is 64.45cc. I would think that you may be okay on running this, but I hate to tell you to just dot to dot that thing and slam it in. The stock MLS gaskets will give you a tad more breathing room over running a tighter quenched cometic. You checked with TSP? They probably could tell you over the phone.
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I'm inclined to say no. When around 59cc, I think the biggest Texas Speed recommends is something like their 228R.
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
the EPS 234/246 cam is the one of the largest you could squeeze under there.....
Are you serious Clark?!
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I talked to tsp about it and they said the the same thing about the 228r would be the largest. However, I talked to speed inc, thunder racing, HPE and said a 23x cam would fit. I could do a 113 or 114 lsa for more clearence. Who has this done this set up before? Thanks for the info guys
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I'm running the PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads milled to 61cc and a 225/229 .581/.591 114+4 cam and had just barely enough p/v clearance
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just measure with a check spring if you don't want to pull the heads...no one should ever risk it...
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I would guess it would be too little PTV or hitting with the torquer 2 or the 231/237 cam with 243s milled .030, I would just keep that 225 cam you have now unless you are planning on flycutting to fit a torquer 2 because a 228r isn't going to gain too much over your cam now. What's the lift/LSA on your current cam?
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You will NOT be able to run a 231/237 cam with .030 cut. The biggest cam I've got to fit so far on heads cut that low was a 226/230 cam, on a 110ICL.
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I would not recommend running that large of a cam with those heads. I think there would be some piston to valve clearance issues. If you want to step up in cam at all I would recommend flycutting, that will allow you to run a larger cam with those heads.
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You will not want to go larger than our 228R. It'll be tight, so I'd still recommend you check it!
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the lift of the cam that I have now is 589 225 112 , its an old TSP cam, it makes 423 RWHP 397 FT LBS. without dyno tuning. thanks for the replys
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get a custom cam to fit your needs.duration,ICL,LSA ,are more crucial for making power than lift.
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You can't really run a bigger cam than you have w/o flycutting. Maybe get some stock cc heads.

BTW lift has very little affect on PTV as max lift happens near bottom dead center.. Duration is the major PTV player....
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Mathematically some say you can fit a 23x cam with these heads . Now im thinking a slight hope for a 230/230 maybe, right under .600 lift, anything less would be pointless. Still looking for the guy who has done this without flycutting etc. I dont want to put a bigger cam in if its gonna be a problem of course ,but I wanna max the cam out with my set up
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Originally Posted by SSTYCOON
Still looking for the guy who has done this without flycutting etc.
Even if you find a member who has done it without flycutting, it doesn't mean you'll have the same amount of clearance he did (and that setup might not even have ideal clearances).
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Just a guess, but are you wanting to run this on the jug as well? That would be my only thought on why you aren't wanting to eyelash -2cc or the thought of grinding on a perfectly good piston is un-nerving to you.
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Dude overwhelmingly everybody thinks it will not clear incuding Matt from TSP who makes his living knowing this stuff. I concur with them. If you have the old patriots with the welded chambers you will be closer to making it....... Do what you want and good luck but you damn sure need to check. Hard to believe Speed inc., HPE & TR told you a low 230's will fit. IT WONT without flycut....
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I know that it seems hard to swallow. I have run a cam close to the specs you are looking to run with 241 heads and 59CC chambers. Would I suggest anyone do it no. every engine is different and every individual who does head work is different.

I ran this set up for about 4 months and got rid of it.

That should tell you more than any one else here. Yet like it has been said you will do what you want and if the thing blows let me be the first one to say "We told you so"


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