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L33_944 Jun 10, 2010 07:29 AM

Looking at TSP's cam kit...
 
I want to get a 228R cam. It's got .588 (as most know) and i was wondering if i should get the PAC 1518 valve springs good for .650 lift for extra insurance? Or just stick with the PAC valve springs good for .600 lift?

Thanks,
Jeff

Sales4@Texas-Speed Jun 10, 2010 09:38 AM

The PAC 1218's will have no problem holding the 228r cam, you will just see more life from the 1518s. We have never had an issue with a PAC spring so you can't go wrong either way.

L33_944 Jun 10, 2010 10:00 AM

More life as in how long?? Also the 1518 wont rob power in any way will they?

Sales4@Texas-Speed Jun 10, 2010 10:17 AM

I would expect the 1518's to put up 5-10k more then the 1218s. The 1518's won't rob any power at all on a cam like that.

GarrettM Jun 10, 2010 10:25 AM

Im looking ar a TSP cam kit myself in the near future.

L33_944 Jun 10, 2010 10:33 AM

whats the expected life on valve springs?? I assumed they would never really fail. Stock ones last 200,000km+ all day long in vehicles and when you get that high, whats another 5-10k?

GarrettM Jun 10, 2010 10:42 AM

Im curious myself. I never really thought of that. What is the expected life on a performance valvespring on a cam car?

Sales4@Texas-Speed Jun 10, 2010 11:08 AM

I would expect the 1218s to last around 20-25k miles on that cam, while the 1518s will work for 30-35k. All aftermarket valvesprings wear out over time, especially when used with the larger more aggressive aftermarket cams.

Dual valvesprings will last a lot longer on this cam. I would expect our PRC duals to go at least 45-50k before needing to be changed.

L33_944 Jun 10, 2010 11:16 AM

you need to do some kind of machining for dual though correct??

I cant belive they would wear out in like 50km's. Interesting.

GarrettM Jun 10, 2010 11:56 AM

Is machining required to run doubles? Also how much power is lost through doubles due to the fact of more effort needed to compress them over singles?

1SLwLS1 Jun 10, 2010 01:40 PM

How high are you revving this engine? Will valve train stability be a super crucial issue? I would go with springs rated closer to your lift for higher revving and/or for more stability. I am planning on adding shims to get mine within 0.050 of coil bind. Just adding more stability to the already maxed out stock valvetrain

L33_944 Jun 10, 2010 04:41 PM

its not going to be crazy, im thinking 6000-6500RPM max

434strokergt45r Jun 10, 2010 06:58 PM

pac spring are good i have delt with them alot cant hurt to be on the safe side

L33_944 Jun 10, 2010 09:29 PM

so whats the final verdict here?? Go with the 1518's (.650 lift) for the extra $25?

Justus67 Jun 10, 2010 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by JohnJanz@Texas-Speed (Post 13449667)
I would expect the 1218s to last around 20-25k miles on that cam, while the 1518s will work for 30-35k. All aftermarket valvesprings wear out over time, especially when used with the larger more aggressive aftermarket cams.

Dual valvesprings will last a lot longer on this cam. I would expect our PRC duals to go at least 45-50k before needing to be changed.

Its up to you, it sounds like the only real difference will be the valve life on that set-up. I'm going with the same set-up with the 1518's. The only thing I have left is to pick an LSA.

crazyelf Jun 11, 2010 01:50 AM

25 bucks extra to delay a valve spring swap another 10k miles hmm.......hells yeah i would go for that!

Defined1983 Jun 11, 2010 03:03 PM

yeah that's a no brainer.

1SLwLS1 Jun 11, 2010 03:05 PM

I would go with the 1518s in your situation

garygnu Jun 11, 2010 04:13 PM

TSP sells the pac1518.


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