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jboehm Sep 5, 2010 09:38 AM

Cam that doesn't NEED a tune?
 
I know getting a tune will most likely make more power than not getting one. Are there cams that run and drive well without having to get a tune right away? This is for my A4 99 t/A.

jam01 Sep 5, 2010 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by jboehm (Post 13825184)
I know getting a tune will most likely make more power than not getting one. Are there cams that run and drive well without having to get a tune right away? This is for my A4 99 t/A.

any changes made to the engine require tuning. some things you can get away with, not recommended. a cam i would think requires tuning right away, otherwise damage may occur in some way.

Jtm2085 Sep 5, 2010 02:07 PM

You will definitely need a tune with any cam swap that is worth your time. Even if your A/F ratio is safe to drive, your car will run like total shit and you will hate driving it. You will also want to get a stall converter since you are a A4. I think its time to do some searching!

*02WS6TURK* Sep 5, 2010 03:34 PM

I'm not sure why so many guys skip out on getting a tune. Makes no sense. To get the full potential out of your performance modifications and to have the car running decently and to it's full potential, you will need a tune. Since you have a A4, you should look into a different stall or it will run like poop.

thegodfather899 Sep 5, 2010 04:28 PM

absolutely get a tune. you will not maximize the gains from the cam without one

180ls1 Sep 5, 2010 06:16 PM

edelbrock has a no tune cam that should work just fine. The ls6 cam will also work well with no tune if you bump the rev limiter up to like 6500 rpms

garygnu Sep 5, 2010 06:31 PM

a mail order tune is $150.

ChucksZ06 Sep 5, 2010 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by 180ls1 (Post 13826849)
edelbrock has a no tune cam that should work just fine. The ls6 cam will also work well with no tune if you bump the rev limiter up to like 6500 rpms

Awesome. The man answered the question...instead of correcting the op.

*02WS6TURK* Sep 5, 2010 06:46 PM

You should find a set of heads that don't require a tune as well ;)

jboehm Sep 5, 2010 09:12 PM

I come from the world of EECIV ford. That system can adjust to anything without getting a tune. I am finding the later GM stuff just doesn't take as well to internal changes. I was looking to make changes one at a time and didn't want to retune each time.

ULTIMATEORANGESS Sep 5, 2010 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by jboehm (Post 13827439)
I come from the world of EECIV ford. That system can adjust to anything without getting a tune. I am finding the later GM stuff just doesn't take as well to internal changes. I was looking to make changes one at a time and didn't want to retune each time.

what setup did you have that required no tune?

hitmanws6 Sep 5, 2010 09:53 PM

So do everything at once and then tune it, if you can't afford a mail order tune I wouldn't mod your car. But to answer your question an LS6 is just about the only one, but even that would benefit from a mail order

PUNISHER TA Sep 6, 2010 01:36 AM

I have a stock cam ill sell ya... Im positive you could go without a tune.

jboehm Sep 6, 2010 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS (Post 13827598)
what setup did you have that required no tune?

HCI and supercharged.

jboehm Sep 6, 2010 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by hitmanws6 (Post 13827612)
So do everything at once and then tune it, if you can't afford a mail order tune I wouldn't mod your car. But to answer your question an LS6 is just about the only one, but even that would benefit from a mail order

Only thing cost has to do with it is I don't feel like dropping $500 on a dyno tune each time I make a change.Just hits me as wasteful spending. It looks like I will have to make all of the mods at once.

SweetS10V8 Sep 6, 2010 09:04 AM

So drop $650 once and buy HPTuners and retune it 1000 times.... And itll be better than most "tuners" actually do.

99LSS1 Sep 6, 2010 09:08 AM

If you have an A-4, I would look to a bigger Stall converter 1st!!! Then set some Power goals and go from there. This will help you stay within a budget and get you to where you want to be. It is not neccesary to dynotune everytime you change your set-up, usually just need to tweek the tune.

Mike Morris Sep 6, 2010 10:34 AM

If you go with an LS6 cam(which requires no tune) you must get an 02 and up cam. Also you must change the valve springs. Get someone who has Efi live or HP tuners to adjust your redline to 6500. If not car will slow down in the 1/4. That cam works awesome after 5500 compared to the stocker. If you go with that cam get an LS6 intake as well-those too will make that car have great power up top compared to what you have now. Intake can be had for cheap.
Even a bolt on car benefits from a tune. You need a tune if you get a converter which all a4s should have. If you are on a budget get a converter etc and install them all at the same time and then get a tune.

omarrakeen Sep 6, 2010 11:27 AM

that would be the LS6 cam...but IMO i dont think its worth the money and time.

INMY01TA Sep 6, 2010 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by jboehm (Post 13828737)
Only thing cost has to do with it is I don't feel like dropping $500 on a dyno tune each time I make a change.Just hits me as wasteful spending. It looks like I will have to make all of the mods at once.

No one charges $500 every time you need a tune. Usually $300-$500 for the 1st tune when they add your car to their software. Usually just pay the dyno time each tune thereafter. (about $100 per hour)


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