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Old 09-26-2010, 01:56 PM
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Default Heads ported, is it ok that they went into the rocker arm bolt area???

CFM Performance ported and polished a pair of 241 casting heads they had for me. I just today got to a point where I could put them on and do a piston to valve clearance. Like normal, I check the threads to make sure they are clean, even with these being very clean to begin with.

I look down the #1 intake rocker arm bolt hole and see that half of the end is gone. I then realize that during the port job each intake rocker arm bolt hole in the heads are cut into???

I don't think this is part of the head design but a product of the port and polish. Could someone post if their 241 casting head (stock) has a hole in each intake port coming from the intake rocker arm bolt hole?

Thanks so much!
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its completely normal for the rocker arm bolt to stick into the intake passageway
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normal....
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
its completely normal for the rocker arm bolt to stick into the intake passageway
Actually, due to the pedestal and how tall the rocker is, I don't think the bolt even sticks into the passageway.

Just make sure you use a thread sealant on the rocker bolts to prevent oil from dripping into the ports.

If you want some more peace of mind, this is a picture I used when I was porting my own heads, that include self-ported and professionally ported heads.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g?t=1285531307

As you can see, all thee bosses have been cut into.
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ya thats normal to do when porting them. the bolt threads might not stick into the port and just the nub on the end of the stock rocker bolts.

Parasoth- some of thouse pics look familar
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I just dont get the point in porting the runner till you open the rocker bolt hole up in doing that you should cut the bolts down so there isnt any thing sticking out in the runner and use a real good sealer ...gas is spraying/flowing thru those runners and will eat everything
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Originally Posted by NHRA4MULA
I just dont get the point in porting the runner till you open the rocker bolt hole up in doing that you should cut the bolts down so there isnt any thing sticking out in the runner and use a real good sealer ...gas is spraying/flowing thru those runners and will eat everything
they dont stick into the hole. bolt a rocker arm up and see.

if you look at a stock un-ported set of heads, you will see a "lump" smack dab in the middle of the runner wall that sticks out about a quarter of an inch. that KILLS flow in that area and creates turbulance. removing that "lump" improves flow dramatically and decreases turbulance.

the reason that lump is there is to keep the rocker bolt hole blind, removing the lump exposes it. but as long as you use good thread sealer, there will be no problems, only improved flow and less turbulance.

look at any set of professionally CNC ported stock heads, (TEA, TSP etc...) and you will see the exact same holes exposed.
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Totally normal the key word everyonne here is using is a good thread sealer which will prevent oil usage issues...
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That's what aftermarket bolts are for. X 5 on the thread sealer.

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Sorry for the late reply but unfortunately looking further into the port i noticed some stray metal pieces at the end of the bolt hole. Fortunately I caught that and removed them. Then i had to remove all the valves to clean out the stray metal pieces that were on top of the valves

Attention to detail may have just saved my engine lol. Thanks for all the replies everyone!
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Where are you putting thread sealer?
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Originally Posted by Intercooler2
Where are you putting thread sealer?
On the rocker bolt threads.
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Guess that's the first I heard of that. What type and aren't they blind?
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If they are ported they aren't usually blind, so thread sealer is used. Stock is blind.
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Everyone keeps saying "good" thread sealer...anyone want to get more specific?

Red Loctite? Permatex?
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Everyone keeps saying "good" thread sealer...anyone want to get more specific?

Red Loctite? Permatex?
You named them...take your pick ..
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So do intake bolts get sealer too?
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Originally Posted by Intercooler2
So do intake bolts get sealer too?
all of them need thread sealer/thread locker
its dual function....wouldnt want those bolts coming loose would you?
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No I wouldn't but I know head bolts you don't. I think from the factory the intake and rocker bolts don't have sealer.

Are you using the white paste sealer on these?
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The intake manifold calls for medium strength thread locker (blue stuff)


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