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Old 12-01-2010, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike454SS
If you've got the washers in the wrong locations...don't you need to remove at least 2 bolts at a time to correct that?
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The issue is not location but whether the individual washers are upside down.
ok so is everyone in agreement that I should pull one bolt at a time starting with bolt number 1 following the torque sequence found on ls1howto.com, inspect for proper washer installation and then immediatly torque the bolt right back to 70 ft lb??
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Originally Posted by splitfinger09
ok so is everyone in agreement that I should pull one bolt at a time starting with bolt number 1 following the torque sequence found on ls1howto.com, inspect for proper washer installation and then immediatly torque the bolt right back to 70 ft lb??
Correct except use 75 ft lbs - which is ARPs currently effective specification.

(My earlier reference to the 70 ft. lbs. was simply that using 1st and 2nd passes of 30 and 50 could end with a final pass of either 70 or 75 ft. lbs. - but you do not need any preliminary passes.)
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Originally Posted by Darkman
Correct except use 75 ft lbs - which is ARPs currently effective specification.

(My earlier reference to the 70 ft. lbs. was simply that using 1st and 2nd passes of 30 and 50 could end with a final pass of either 70 or 75 ft. lbs. - but you do not need any preliminary passes.)
Ok great then that is what I will do. Also to be 100000000000% clear, the side of the washer that has the groove in it faces upwards toward the head of the bolt and the flat side goes down towards the cylinder head?
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[ silly me, in post #18, I had forgot that the washers were upside down ]

Yes, the chamfer shape on the edge of washer hole goes toward the bolt head (i.e. facing up).

I just bought this same set of ARP bolts last month, and the instructions do say 75 ftlb.

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Originally Posted by Darkman
Correct except use 75 ft lbs - which is ARPs currently effective specification.

(My earlier reference to the 70 ft. lbs. was simply that using 1st and 2nd passes of 30 and 50 could end with a final pass of either 70 or 75 ft. lbs. - but you do not need any preliminary passes.)
ok 75 for the bigger 10 bolts, but what would the 5 smaller bolts torque be?
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22 foot pounds.
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okay so the middle bolts under the valve coverf seem to have some oil on the threads of the bolts. The bolt hole itself looks completly clear when I shine a light down into the hole. Is this a problem? Where would the oil be coming from? Thanks
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Darkman. . . . the picture of the instructions shows 25 for the m8 bolts... and it also says to torque them in 3 equal steps. To me this means 25/50/75 for the m10's and 8/16/25 for the m8's....
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Originally Posted by Duffster
Darkman. . . . the picture of the instructions shows 25 for the m8 bolts... and it also says to torque them in 3 equal steps. To me this means 25/50/75 for the m10's and 8/16/25 for the m8's....
You are correct - the ARP specification for the M8 bolts should be 25 foot pounds rather than the 22 foot pounds, which is the OEM specification.

Regarding the use of three equal passes, as I indicated in post #17, I see no reason to follow that in Splitfinger09's case because he is removing one bolt at a time to check whether the washer has been installed upside down. That procedure presumably will not disturb the mating of head/gasket/block established by his original, 3-pass torque sequence.
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I would remove one at a time and torque to 25. . . in sequence, 50 then final 75. But again, 1 at a time removed. It'll reduce the stresses on the heads/block and apply them evenly as he goes. Just me. This way the gasket never comes loose, all bolts are torqued in sequence and at appropriate values.



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