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brians91formula Jan 6, 2011 09:16 AM

LS6 + 243's
 
Current setup:

Full Exhaust
UD pulley
Custom cam 227/233 on a 112 LSA
Stock LS1 intake
M6 Transmission

made 402/378 on a Mustang dyno

How much do you think I would gain with an LS6 intake and a set of ported 243's ? How much do people typically gain with those heads ?

raymond mckinney Jan 6, 2011 09:21 AM

10-15hp with a Ls6 intake and Nice ported Ls6's 20-40hp. You should be able to make 425-440 wheel with your set-up with them changes.

brian_rs/ss Jan 6, 2011 08:16 PM

do you have stock injectors? with the changes you are making you will need to upgrade.

brians91formula Jan 7, 2011 10:31 AM

Yeah I was already planning on injectors. Just curious on power gains from the LS6 heads.

SOMbitch Jan 7, 2011 02:12 PM

Nice #'s and just goes to show that LS1 IM isn't the total dog it is made out to be:D

I don't buy in to the math a lot of people use on here. They think well this company says their head is worth 45, the cam 50, a LS6 15, ported TB 5, a UD pulley 10 and headers catback and tune 45 so I should pick up 170:engarde:

TRUST ME IT NEVER EVER WORKS THAT WAY:secret2:

If it did there would be a TON of 346's scaring 500......

brian_rs/ss Jan 7, 2011 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by SOMbitch (Post 14330297)
Nice #'s and just goes to show that LS1 IM isn't the total dog it is made out to be:D

I don't buy in to the math a lot of people use on here. They think well this company says their head is worth 45, the cam 50, a LS6 15, ported TB 5, a UD pulley 10 and headers catback and tune 45 so I should pick up 170:engarde:

TRUST ME IT NEVER EVER WORKS THAT WAY:secret2:

If it did there would be a TON of 346's scaring 500......

i totally agree, power does not equal the sum of the parts. it's parts working together to deliver a desired result. i hate when people do mod math and say "this + this + this = THIS" that's crap and they are just pulling numbers off of websites and adding them up. which is pure ignorance.

david vericker Jan 7, 2011 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by SOMbitch (Post 14330297)
Nice #'s and just goes to show that LS1 IM isn't the total dog it is made out to be:D

I don't buy in to the math a lot of people use on here. They think well this company says their head is worth 45, the cam 50, a LS6 15, ported TB 5, a UD pulley 10 and headers catback and tune 45 so I should pick up 170:engarde:

TRUST ME IT NEVER EVER WORKS THAT WAY:secret2:

If it did there would be a TON of 346's scaring 500......

Isn't that the truth. :D The true 500 rwhp 346's are far and few between!! :nod:

TooMuchMoney Jan 7, 2011 03:42 PM

I put down 462rwhp/400rwtq (Cam only, TREX) with stock 243's and stock LS6 Intake with full bolt on's! I think with your set up you will make about 450rwhp.

brians91formula Jan 10, 2011 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by TooMuchMoney (Post 14330645)
I put down 462rwhp/400rwtq (Cam only, TREX) with stock 243's and stock LS6 Intake with full bolt on's! I think with your set up you will make about 450rwhp.

I hope so ! 450rwhp is my goal.

madmike9396 Jan 10, 2011 12:32 PM

if u have the 243s ported id say a 30-40 hp gain

98blueSScamaro Jan 10, 2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by SOMbitch (Post 14330297)
Nice #'s and just goes to show that LS1 IM isn't the total dog it is made out to be:D

I don't buy in to the math a lot of people use on here. They think well this company says their head is worth 45, the cam 50, a LS6 15, ported TB 5, a UD pulley 10 and headers catback and tune 45 so I should pick up 170:engarde:

TRUST ME IT NEVER EVER WORKS THAT WAY:secret2:

If it did there would be a TON of 346's scaring 500......

Every little thing count's forsure but never set your mind on a number because it's just that and number and a tool. It takes more then just a mean motor to be fast. it's the hole setup.but what do i know i will only be the 10th guy or so to break 500rwhp on a stock bottomend. :chug:

chrs1313 Jan 10, 2011 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro (Post 14342403)
Every little thing count's forsure but never set your mind on a number because it's just that and number and a tool. It takes more then just a mean motor to be fast. it's the hole setup.but what do i know i will only be the 10th guy or so to break 500rwhp on a stock bottomend. :chug:

I wish I could be on that list :(

brians91formula Jan 11, 2011 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro (Post 14342403)
Every little thing count's forsure but never set your mind on a number because it's just that and number and a tool. It takes more then just a mean motor to be fast. it's the hole setup.but what do i know i will only be the 10th guy or so to break 500rwhp on a stock bottomend. :chug:

with that being said, I want a 450rwhp, 11 second, 120+ mph trap car.

98blueSScamaro Jan 11, 2011 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by brians91formula (Post 14347331)
with that being said, I want a 450rwhp, 11 second, 120+ mph trap car.

No problem but i wont take 450 to do that:devil: SI cars do that all day long

djfury05 Jan 11, 2011 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by TooMuchMoney (Post 14330645)
I put down 462rwhp/400rwtq (Cam only, TREX) with stock 243's and stock LS6 Intake with full bolt on's! I think with your set up you will make about 450rwhp.

I don't consider that cam only if u swapped 241s for 243s. Is your opinion of cam only is based strictly upon the actual internals of the short block only? Not discrediting you but I think its safe to say the majority will agree with me if you change the heads its not cam only. Still good #'s though :)

djfury05 Jan 11, 2011 02:12 PM

To the OP when I swapped on my 243 heads I gained 55hp and 31tq. I had stock untouched 241s on previously and made 419/392. Now I make the #'s in my sig. These are not stock 243s though they have been cnc'ed and the works etc. You are making some crazy good #'s on that Mustang dyno that's for sure a good working combo man.

TooMuchMoney Jan 11, 2011 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by djfury05 (Post 14347406)
I don't consider that cam only if u swapped 241s for 243s. Is your opinion of cam only is based strictly upon the actual internals of the short block only? Not discrediting you but I think its safe to say the majority will agree with me if you change the heads its not cam only. Still good #'s though :)

Lol please tell me your joking. The C5 Z06 come stock with 243 heads. So yes its cam only and I am sure everyone on here will agree with me besides you of course.

djfury05 Jan 11, 2011 02:17 PM

Ok excuse me mr douche bag I thought you were talking about your firehawk

TooMuchMoney Jan 11, 2011 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by djfury05 (Post 14347435)
Ok excuse me mr douche bag I thought you were talking about your firehawk

haha sorry thought you were being a dick. But no my Firehawk is a Texas 10.5 car. But I just got it re dynoed and it put down 475/410 still cam only. Thunder Racing said thats the most they have ever seen so far. Car will easly make 500 with heads and a Fast intake.

djfury05 Jan 11, 2011 02:33 PM

Haha its all good man I should have checked ur sig more thoroughly. Those are some insane numbers for that firehawk though what cam are you running?


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