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Old 02-17-2011, 08:42 AM
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Wow, thank you everyone for the influx of information. This is what I needed to help pinpoint what I should be looking for. I may reach out to Pat G, seen his name come up quite a few times while searching for cam info. I think I will end up going G5X1 as the specs for that seem to be right in line with what most were saying for specs. Thanks again everyone.

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Originally Posted by acammer
And on another note, I was also looking at the whiplashII offsite with the original poster - they advertise 450rwhp on cam only with good manners - that seems like a stretch though. Thoughts?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-new-cams.html

It's a huuuuuuge cam and they listed 435rwhp for a vette similar to his.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
maybe maybe not, there are also well tuned cars with more duration and more aggressive lobes that dont make that power all else being the same.

I would just shoot for a cam that fits your criteria in terms of drivablity and how you want the power delievey and not worry about what the dyno says. In this case a 233/239 on 113 would work well i believe.
That 222/226 cam was specifically taylored for bone stock 243 heads... I agree some combinations with more agressive cams won't make that power, but its all about the setup(not to mention no two dyno's read the same)... Most c5 zo6's put down 390+ whp with tune/bolton's. Its been proven time after time that cam only z06's dyno anywhere from 420-450whp, depending on dyno,cam, and supporting mods. That link I posted had track results aswell(means alot more than dyno numbers imo)... low 11's @ 12x's, pretty stout for a "baby" cam only ls6.... bigger is not always better when talking about camshafts. The op wants a street friendly cam that has power everywhere, the 233/239 would not be my first choice.

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Send a PM to patg on the forums here, he can hook you up with info on what cam you need for your build.
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227/235 .614/.621 111+1 LSA, something to that effect.
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I have a custom BRE 224 cam with unported 243 heads that makes 444 rwhp. My setup makes 365 rwtq @ 3000 rpm and 400 rwtq @ 3800 rpm. It's not slapped together by any means but when you optimize a setup it's amazing how well it works. Click my sig link for more details.
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Originally Posted by CRAZZ28
A cam that makes that kind of power on stock heads will be on the larger side and will be a little sluggish in the low rpms. It really depends on your definition of "decent drivability" IMO pick up some ported heads and make a decent amount more power more efficiently and have more power under the curve
Very true also stock heads dont flow very much which limit lowend power no matter what cam you are running...
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stock heads limit power everywhere to make a correct statement....
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
227/235 .614/.621 111+1 LSA, something to that effect.
Why such a large split Mark? Maybe I missed it but is he going to plan on a nice shot? Or just favoring the better exhaust side.
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Actually, its funny you mention that. I have noticed a bunch of very good performing cams tend to be split by at least 4 degrees. Coincidence?
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Originally Posted by CRAZZ28
A cam that makes that kind of power on stock heads will be on the larger side and will be a little sluggish in the low rpms. It really depends on your definition of "decent drivability" IMO pick up some ported heads and make a decent amount more power more efficiently and have more power under the curve
That's been kind of where I've been steering the OP - the best setup is top of the line heads and intake, you can make more power with better manners and low-end torque with a lot less cam than going with a lot of cam on crappier heads for the same "peak" number. Fortunately the LS6 stock parts are pretty decent pieces, so I think he's landed on a low 23x* setup with a nice smooth 114 LSA will keep the bottom end stout and build good power across the board. I don't think it'll be too hard to hit the numbers he's looking for with something like than in an LS6, and it still behave nicely. He's not out to break the dyno, just looking for a solid increase with great manners.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Actually, its funny you mention that. I have noticed a bunch of very good performing cams tend to be split by at least 4 degrees. Coincidence?
Stock heads have a larger gap for the i/e ratio than what a ported set would have.
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Originally Posted by ysb02
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-new-cams.html

It's a huuuuuuge cam and they listed 435rwhp for a vette similar to his.
Im going with Whiplash II, 102mm FAST intake and 102mm Nick Williams t.b. on my stock 2001 z06 (just borla full exhaust system) with stock heads.

I was looking at Texas Speed kits but EnglandGreen sales a COMPLETE kit including 1 tube of Red Locktite lol

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Price is $1595 shipped to the lower 48 states.

Always remember, you WILL need a computer tune after a cam swap - so factor in some $$$ for that item.

Our cam package contains the following parts:
1 x EnglandGreen custom grind cam
1 x GM Front Cover Gasket
1 x GM Front Cover seal
2 x GM Waterpump seals
1 x GM Crank Bolt
1 x GM LS2 Timing Chain
1 x GM Oil pump pickup O-Ring
1 x High volume, high flow oil pump
1 x 160 degree thermostat
16 x Patriot Extreme dual valve springs with titanium retainers
16 x 7.400 inch chromemoly hardened pushrods
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1 x New serpentine belt
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Good luck on your choise
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I have 02 z06 and have the same goals. I am looking for dependability and high high 10's or low 11's. I went with eps with low 600's lift 230's duration on 112. Thats what they sugested I used. I am running kooks 1 7/8, stock ti's, fast 90 to be hopefully ported by mamo, ati pulley, quality valvetrain, blackwing intake, oe 90 tb. I am looking at mid to late april to get all parts in, I will let you know how it does.
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421.6/dynoed/Tuned @ ECS rear wheel in LS1/ Comp cam 230's/620's/114. Stock 3.42 rear, long tubed, cats, corsa,veraram. Choppy idle, surges under 1000 rpm, runs strong through the gears. Have changed driving habits, ECS rec 4.10/coming soon. Sorry, but it seems you need to use the camera on your phone to make the data cut-off

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