LS1 383cid | PRC 227 | EPS Cam | TEA Vic Jr..Build Thread !! (UPDATED WITH DYNO)
05-08-2011, 11:47 AM
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LS1 383cid | PRC 227 | EPS Cam | TEA Vic Jr..Build Thread !! (UPDATED WITH DYNO) LAST UPDATE POST # 50 IN PAGE 3
Hey guys ..
Here will be all the updates for my friend build in his Caprice SS A4 2004 ( Holden Version that you don't have in US
)
All the parts below are received here in Saudi Arabia except the heads & cam. The heads are in Bahrain so we expected to receive them by tomorrow or after tomorrow. The cam is custom and we still waiting Geoff @ EPS to ship it
The goal was to achieve the maximum performance for LS1 383 with 250 shot of nitrous that will be raced in the street and strip
Engine End Bottom ( LS1 383 Rotating Assimbles )
- Callies Compstar Crankshaft
- Callies Compstar 6.125 Connection rods
- Diamond Forged Pistons -2 flat top
- ARP Main Stud
- Clevite Bearings
Heads & Valvetrain
- PRC 227cc milled to 66cc
- EPS Custom Camshaft 23x/25x 109LSA
- PRC Dual Springs 0.675"
- PRC 7.5" Pushrod
- Ultra Gold 1.7 Rocker Arms
- Comtic Heads Gasket
- ARP Head Studs
- Caddlic CTS-V Lifters
Bolt-Ons
- TEA Ported Victor Jr Intake Manifold
- 4 Barrel Throttle Body
- Carb Style Scoop
- Kooks 1 7/8" LongTube Headers
- Custom 2.5" X-Pipe & Cat-Back
- SLP Underdrive Pulley
- Meziere Electrical Water Pump
Fuel System
- Ford 42lb Green Fuel Injectors
- Edelbrock Fuel Rails
- LPE Fuel Pump
Transmission & Rear-End
- Rebuilt 4L60E
- Speedinc Flexplate
- Stock Rear-End with 3.73 gear ratio
- Custom Torque Converter
Nitrous System
- Nitrous Outlet Direct Port with Standalone fuel cell
Hopefully will try to take more pics of the parts before and after installing them, we expected to have the cam here by next week so we can start with the engine
Ported Victor Jr By TEA
LPE Fuel Pump + CTS-V lifters + Speedinc Flexplate
EWP & Catch-Can
Any suggestions ? what do you think this will put down on the rollers ??
Hey guys ..
Here will be all the updates for my friend build in his Caprice SS A4 2004 ( Holden Version that you don't have in US
)All the parts below are received here in Saudi Arabia except the heads & cam. The heads are in Bahrain so we expected to receive them by tomorrow or after tomorrow. The cam is custom and we still waiting Geoff @ EPS to ship it
The goal was to achieve the maximum performance for LS1 383 with 250 shot of nitrous that will be raced in the street and strip
Engine End Bottom ( LS1 383 Rotating Assimbles )
- Callies Compstar Crankshaft
- Callies Compstar 6.125 Connection rods
- Diamond Forged Pistons -2 flat top
- ARP Main Stud
- Clevite Bearings
Heads & Valvetrain
- PRC 227cc milled to 66cc
- EPS Custom Camshaft 23x/25x 109LSA
- PRC Dual Springs 0.675"
- PRC 7.5" Pushrod
- Ultra Gold 1.7 Rocker Arms
- Comtic Heads Gasket
- ARP Head Studs
- Caddlic CTS-V Lifters
Bolt-Ons
- TEA Ported Victor Jr Intake Manifold
- 4 Barrel Throttle Body
- Carb Style Scoop
- Kooks 1 7/8" LongTube Headers
- Custom 2.5" X-Pipe & Cat-Back
- SLP Underdrive Pulley
- Meziere Electrical Water Pump
Fuel System
- Ford 42lb Green Fuel Injectors
- Edelbrock Fuel Rails
- LPE Fuel Pump
Transmission & Rear-End
- Rebuilt 4L60E
- Speedinc Flexplate
- Stock Rear-End with 3.73 gear ratio
- Custom Torque Converter
Nitrous System
- Nitrous Outlet Direct Port with Standalone fuel cell
Hopefully will try to take more pics of the parts before and after installing them, we expected to have the cam here by next week so we can start with the engine
Ported Victor Jr By TEA
LPE Fuel Pump + CTS-V lifters + Speedinc Flexplate
EWP & Catch-Can
Any suggestions ? what do you think this will put down on the rollers ??
Last edited by Cold Zero; 12-02-2011 at 01:48 AM.
05-09-2011, 09:03 AM
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i don't know what it will pull with a Ported Victor Jr does it flows more then a ported fast intake? but with a fast 92/92 ported intake i think it will be in the 500rwhp my car has stock 799 heads that i ported it dyno 442 but i call texas speed and they recommended the prc 227 and said i could be in the 490-500rwhp
05-09-2011, 10:18 AM
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Actually I don't know about ported Vic Jr vs ported FAST, but what I know is Vic Jr like different cams than stock style intake ( usually much difference between intake and exhaust duration ) .. I'm sure the 4 barrel thing will flow nasty numbers though !
we are looking for 500-530 rwhp / 460-470 rwtq
we are looking for 500-530 rwhp / 460-470 rwtq
05-10-2011, 01:23 AM
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Hi GTO, it seems like you are Arabian living in US .. good luck bro
Regarding the intake and why we preferred the Vic Jr over the FAST intake in this build :-
- Vic Jr has more RPM band up to 7000 RPM , and the build will be raced only for 1/4 mile with stall torque converter .. so the power is always there from 3000-3500 to 7000 RPM
- The car is not DD, or built to be real street race car .. NO .. it is not, that's why we aren't looking for streetable setup or low-end power !
- Locally the only one reached 530 RWHP with LS1 383ci was Lumina SS A4 which using Vic Jr & 4barrel setup, the same engine few months later bought by Camaro M6 owner and he swapped the intake to FAST 102mm and the power drop down to 497 RWHP ..
I think those Vic Jr when ported and used with 4 barrel TB can go away with top end power if the cam was customized to give power at 7000+ RPM
Regarding the intake and why we preferred the Vic Jr over the FAST intake in this build :-
- Vic Jr has more RPM band up to 7000 RPM , and the build will be raced only for 1/4 mile with stall torque converter .. so the power is always there from 3000-3500 to 7000 RPM
- The car is not DD, or built to be real street race car .. NO .. it is not, that's why we aren't looking for streetable setup or low-end power !
- Locally the only one reached 530 RWHP with LS1 383ci was Lumina SS A4 which using Vic Jr & 4barrel setup, the same engine few months later bought by Camaro M6 owner and he swapped the intake to FAST 102mm and the power drop down to 497 RWHP ..
I think those Vic Jr when ported and used with 4 barrel TB can go away with top end power if the cam was customized to give power at 7000+ RPM
Last edited by Cold Zero; 05-10-2011 at 01:31 AM.
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05-12-2011, 06:48 PM
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A couple for things to keep an eye out for that I found on my 237s.
The exhaust manifold and front accessory bolt holes were ~1-2mm too shallow and if you are using rockers that use the stock pedestal, you will need to grind the locating tabs off of the pedestals.
Not a big deal, but it was no fun putting my power steering pump on three times. And I'm glad I mocked up the headers in the motor prior to putting it back in the car. That would have been one hell of an exhaust leak
Then again these things might be resolved in these latest heads. Just a heads up that might save you some time.
The exhaust manifold and front accessory bolt holes were ~1-2mm too shallow and if you are using rockers that use the stock pedestal, you will need to grind the locating tabs off of the pedestals.
Not a big deal, but it was no fun putting my power steering pump on three times. And I'm glad I mocked up the headers in the motor prior to putting it back in the car. That would have been one hell of an exhaust leak
Then again these things might be resolved in these latest heads. Just a heads up that might save you some time.
05-14-2011, 02:38 PM
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The heads show up today .. what a work of art , thanks Matt, John & Jon at TSP
Now we are waiting for the EPS cam .. it is on the way to Saudi Arabia,, thanks Geoff
Now we are waiting for the EPS cam .. it is on the way to Saudi Arabia,, thanks Geoff
05-15-2011, 06:18 AM
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Congratulations for your great build parts Cold Zero !!
I think breaking into 500rwhp with a rebuilt 4L60e can be easily achieved with your great heads, 11.5:1 SCR, and your big cam.
I have almost the same setup but with AFR 215 heads milled to 59cc, Mahle -6cc pistons, and 0.041 heads gasket that will put my SCR at ~ 11.4:1 and my DCR at 8.34:1
I will also be using a rebuilt 4L60e with 8.8" Fox body rear end and 3.55 gear ratio. However, my engine will miss some of the goodies you have (EWP, Rocker arms, 1 7/8" LTs).
Let's see what numbers each setup will achieve.
I think breaking into 500rwhp with a rebuilt 4L60e can be easily achieved with your great heads, 11.5:1 SCR, and your big cam.
I have almost the same setup but with AFR 215 heads milled to 59cc, Mahle -6cc pistons, and 0.041 heads gasket that will put my SCR at ~ 11.4:1 and my DCR at 8.34:1
I will also be using a rebuilt 4L60e with 8.8" Fox body rear end and 3.55 gear ratio. However, my engine will miss some of the goodies you have (EWP, Rocker arms, 1 7/8" LTs).
Let's see what numbers each setup will achieve.
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sounds good, but the Caprice is a heavy car for drag racing, would be a lot of weight reduction for the drag strip, seen as its not a dd or a street car i'm guessing you'll be stripping out all of the interior, etc.
Good for something different though, but very heavy car.
Good for something different though, but very heavy car.
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Congratulations for your great build parts Cold Zero !!
I think breaking into 500rwhp with a rebuilt 4L60e can be easily achieved with your great heads, 11.5:1 SCR, and your big cam.
I have almost the same setup but with AFR 215 heads milled to 59cc, Mahle -6cc pistons, and 0.041 heads gasket that will put my SCR at ~ 11.4:1 and my DCR at 8.34:1
I will also be using a rebuilt 4L60e with 8.8" Fox body rear end and 3.55 gear ratio. However, my engine will miss some of the goodies you have (EWP, Rocker arms, 1 7/8" LTs).
Let's see what numbers each setup will achieve.
I think breaking into 500rwhp with a rebuilt 4L60e can be easily achieved with your great heads, 11.5:1 SCR, and your big cam.
I have almost the same setup but with AFR 215 heads milled to 59cc, Mahle -6cc pistons, and 0.041 heads gasket that will put my SCR at ~ 11.4:1 and my DCR at 8.34:1
I will also be using a rebuilt 4L60e with 8.8" Fox body rear end and 3.55 gear ratio. However, my engine will miss some of the goodies you have (EWP, Rocker arms, 1 7/8" LTs).
Let's see what numbers each setup will achieve.
Thanks Samer,
Nice build you got .. nice to see you guys posting here. You feel the differance than the Arabic forum for sure
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sounds good, but the Caprice is a heavy car for drag racing, would be a lot of weight reduction for the drag strip, seen as its not a dd or a street car i'm guessing you'll be stripping out all of the interior, etc.
Good for something different though, but very heavy car.
Good for something different though, but very heavy car.
Something different as you stated
And this car will see the drag strip once a year or twice, but will be raced in the weekend for short distance from low roll or from a dig
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Hi GTO, it seems like you are Arabian living in US .. good luck bro
Regarding the intake and why we preferred the Vic Jr over the FAST intake in this build :-
- Vic Jr has more RPM band up to 7000 RPM , and the build will be raced only for 1/4 mile with stall torque converter .. so the power is always there from 3000-3500 to 7000 RPM
- The car is not DD, or built to be real street race car .. NO .. it is not, that's why we aren't looking for streetable setup or low-end power !
- Locally the only one reached 530 RWHP with LS1 383ci was Lumina SS A4 which using Vic Jr & 4barrel setup, the same engine few months later bought by Camaro M6 owner and he swapped the intake to FAST 102mm and the power drop down to 497 RWHP ..
I think those Vic Jr when ported and used with 4 barrel TB can go away with top end power if the cam was customized to give power at 7000+ RPM
Regarding the intake and why we preferred the Vic Jr over the FAST intake in this build :-
- Vic Jr has more RPM band up to 7000 RPM , and the build will be raced only for 1/4 mile with stall torque converter .. so the power is always there from 3000-3500 to 7000 RPM
- The car is not DD, or built to be real street race car .. NO .. it is not, that's why we aren't looking for streetable setup or low-end power !
- Locally the only one reached 530 RWHP with LS1 383ci was Lumina SS A4 which using Vic Jr & 4barrel setup, the same engine few months later bought by Camaro M6 owner and he swapped the intake to FAST 102mm and the power drop down to 497 RWHP ..
I think those Vic Jr when ported and used with 4 barrel TB can go away with top end power if the cam was customized to give power at 7000+ RPM
Oh ,I thought this car gonna be daily use it's more " Rsmiyah"
Now I can say the Vic jr is perfect for your setup .
Keep it up bro and "mabrook" again
