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Old 02-24-2004, 03:38 PM
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Default New Camshafts & Cylinder Heads @ Texas Speed!!

We're proud to annouce with the help of Terry @ Patriot that we finally have the Race heads ready for production! I watched the head flow 312cfm on Patriot's bench with 3.900" bore. Needless to say, we're really pleased with the results & they definitely work. Testing on our heads & cam C5 has given us 480rwhp & 430lbft before we add a LSX intake & a normal clutch instead of the heavy dual-disc Mcleod. The heads feature a 2.08 intake valve and 1.60 exhaust valve, & they are available with a few different chambers that I will discuss at a later date.

As far as camshafts we have a few new designs.
These camshafts were designed to have aggressive ramps & large lift to help head flow. With Terry @ Patriot & Crane's new double springs that take .650" lift, we were able to design camshafts that better fit what the ls1-style heads need.

The new TSP225 camshaft:
When designing this camshaft we wanted something with aggressive ramps & lift that help the heads to flow. The result of a lot of testing & tweaking is the new 225/225, .595"/.595" camshaft. Like always, you can get it on the standard 112 or 114 LSA, and other LSA's are available as special-orders for no additional charge. Look for dyno results from a 224 cam to a TSP225 camshaft within the week

The second camshaft is the Magic Stick Rev.2. This camshaft was the one installed in our project c5 that we're hoping with the LSX intake & 90mm throttle body will put us at 500+ RWHP on a stock bottom end.
The specs are 239/244, .625"/.635" on a 113 LSA. This camshaft is definitely designed for the aggressive heads/cam packages & is very aggressive for stock cubes & small strokers. Look for more results soon from this camshaft

The third camshaft we have in the works is 244/252, .635"/.650" !!! This camshaft still has a lot of testing to go before we have final results, but it's pretty aggressive. Look for some dyno and track times in the next few weeks with our race-style cylinder heads and this camshaft. This cam will be designed for the all-out drag racer that is willing to set the car up properly to make the setup run well!

This is not all of them, but we have some testing to do before we finalize a few of the other cams. Keep your eyes open because there are a lot of results coming soon!

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what pricing on the new patriot heads??
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that 239/244 cam sounds so tempting...damn i need gears lol
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how much for those heads???
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What is the P&V clearance like on the 239/244 cam? That sounds like a monster for a stock cube car. I can't wait for a dyno graph of that.
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The heads are Texas Speed Race Series heads, Patriot does our ports for us & we have them hand finished & big valves installed in them! Each set will come flowed also The pricing will be $2099 for the Race style LS6 heads, and we're still working on race style 5.3l heads
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The heads are Texas Speed Race Series heads. Patriot does our ports for us & we have them hand finished & big valves installed in them! Each set will come flowed also The pricing will be $2099 for the Race style LS6 heads, and we're still working on race style 5.3l heads
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Are the posted flow #s done with a intake bolted on?
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would the new 225/225 be able to be tuned by emissions by terms of the sniffer, i know a 224/224 will...
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Do you anticipate the TSP225 to be ok with single springs like the 918s ? (since you mentioned the other new springs)
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Are these LS6 heads or 6.0 heads?
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What is the P/V like on that 239/244 cam? Are the pistons in your C5 with this cam flycut? If so, how much? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Quick 99
would the new 225/225 be able to be tuned by emissions by terms of the sniffer, i know a 224/224 will...

thats what i want to know also, do you think it will pass california smog and with some PP stage II heads?
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Originally Posted by Sunset01
Do you anticipate the TSP225 to be ok with single springs like the 918s ? (since you mentioned the other new springs)
I have the same question...
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One more question to the mix: Will that TSP225 cam sound like an out of whack sewing machine is loose under the hood?
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Yes I think the 225 cam could pass emissions testing like our 224 cams do
The 918 style spring would work fine for the 225 cam

The heads are LQ9 style heads with a custom welded chamber designed based off our specs. p/v info is in the works on the bigger cams guys, I have big valve reliefs so I can test alot of different cam sizes without removing the heads

As far as the heads flow information look for the breakdown soon!
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Always good to hear about new products.

Please tell us a little more about the new TSP225 cam. What's the advertised duration? How much more flow with the new lobe on the 225 vs say a 224 XE-R?

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Why such a small duration (225 cam)? Do you think there will be noticeable gains over a 224/.560 cam? Seems small for a cam designed for stage 2 heads. Interested to see the dyno results.

How 'bout doing a strong NA cam in the 230 duration range? I'm thinking my ideal cam would be a reverse split or single pattern with around 230-234 intake duration and about .59x - .600 lift on a 112.

The Magic Stick v.2 and the 244/252 are wayyyy too big for my street/strip car.
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The TSP225 is a 225/225 and was designed for those wanting a cam that's not going to be overly aggressive in terms of idle quality but will still work very well with the cylinder heads that we offer. The .595" lift will allow the cam to make better use of the ported cylinder heads being used, and it's still going to work incredibly well with the stock cylinder heads for those of you looking for a cam-only package. One of the best parts is that it has lift under .600" lift, so you can run the stock-diameter valve springs with no problems. We've run the Comp 918 single springs in the past with a little over .600" lift with no problems, but we do recommend going with the Patriot or Crane dual valve springs. Comp has actually changed their marketing with the 918 valve spring and no longer recommend it for up to .600" lift. They now push their new 921 springs, but they're very expensive! With the package pricing we'll have with our new cams and Patriot and Crane dual valve springs, there won't be any reason to have to rely on a single spring anymore.

The TSP225 will offer a little more power over the Comp 224 XE-R. It will have more duration, more lift, and a slightly more aggressive ramp rate. The biggest bonus is that it will be a little cheaper than the Comp grinds, too!

We will get p-to-v measurements, along with other pertinent information, on all of the camshafts as they become available. This way you will know exactly what you can and cannot do in terms of shaving cylinder heads, running larger valves, etc. The 244/252 will certainly require valve reliefs with aftermarket cylinder heads, but we will know for sure with stock heads once we have one installed. We'll have some track results from this camshaft and the TSP race-series cylinder heads in the next few weeks.

1fastWS6 - We already have one in the works and should have it in our hands this week. We're holding one last cat in the bag, but suffice it to say it will work WELL with your setup! We'll release more information very soon about this camshaft, so keep your eyes open.

Let us know if any of you have more questions or concerns.

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I'm assuming that you didn't mean that TS225 was for stage 2 heads necessarily. Do you/will you have dyno tests on stock headed cars, especially compared to 224 cams? I am considering for stock head car.

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