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WARP211 Oct 20, 2011 01:37 PM

To all ls1tech's!!!
 
Okay guys I have the heads install on my car now and I got to send back some defective spring's. The only thing is they need the old spring's before they will send me new one's. Is there anyway to hold the valves up without having to remove the heads from the car? I will need all the springs out and something to hold all the valves up.

Syris Oct 20, 2011 01:44 PM

you can put some rope into the cylinders, thick enough to coil to hold the valve.

BlueBird346 Oct 20, 2011 01:50 PM

I just have tape on my valve stems to keep them from going anywhere.

djfury05 Oct 20, 2011 01:50 PM

or maybe you could try using a zip tie or something on each valve so it won't fall down?

txh0tb0i972 Oct 20, 2011 01:53 PM

I have done both of these! best way would be the tape... due the fact that if the piston is down thats alot of rope

SweetS10V8 Oct 20, 2011 02:12 PM

compressed air is the most common, I simply roll over the engine until the piston of the cylinder im working on is at TDC

Taspeed Oct 20, 2011 02:16 PM

small rubber band on the valve stem

KCS Oct 20, 2011 02:23 PM

Usually the valve won't fall past the seal unless you push it. If you've taken the seals off, I would use small zip ties around the keeper grooves.

Or are you talking about holding the valves up while you take the springs off?

ANTICOP RAM AIR Oct 20, 2011 02:32 PM

use compressed air to hold the valves closed, remove springs, put a paper clip on the retaining groove... it wont go anywhere and it will allow movement if you need to...

WARP211 Oct 20, 2011 05:15 PM

Thanks guys you gave me some good ideas I'll try it and let you know how it goes.

ZeeOSix Oct 20, 2011 06:33 PM

He's talking about holding all 16 valves up without springs at the same time. If he used air, he'd need 8 air fittings and have to supply air to all 8 cylinders for days ... LOL.

Anyway ... something around the top groove of the valve to prevent it from falling past the guide will work well IMO. Just make sure the piston is on TDC when you remove and then reinstall the new springs.

ANTICOP RAM AIR Oct 20, 2011 07:59 PM

you use air on the cylinder you are working on... then secure the valves.. repeat x7

farmington Oct 21, 2011 10:48 AM

clothespins

cyipher Oct 21, 2011 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by farmington (Post 15533193)
clothespins

winning!!!

BlackScreaminMachine Oct 21, 2011 01:15 PM

As long as the seals are there and no lubricant on the valves it self, tape (masking, painters), or Zip ties.

Or remove head. I know its extreme but something you can consider if needed or worried.

ZeeOSix Oct 21, 2011 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ANTICOP RAM AIR (Post 15531184)
you use air on the cylinder you are working on... then secure the valves.. repeat x7

You don't really need the air ... just make sure the piston is at TDC on the cylinder you're working on.

Monte LS....1 Oct 22, 2011 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by ANTICOP RAM AIR (Post 15531184)
you use air on the cylinder you are working on... then secure the valves.. repeat x7

Hes working on multiple cylinders though. hes installed and found some to be defective so is sending them back to be replaced. Air wont work here.

Alot of the guys around here use zipties for prolonged periods of time

wilson34 Oct 23, 2011 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Monte LS....1 (Post 15537555)
Hes working on multiple cylinders though. hes installed and found some to be defective so is sending them back to be replaced. Air wont work here.

Alot of the guys around here use zipties for prolonged periods of time

He's saying to use air on the cylinder that's being worked on. Remove valve spring. Then secure and remove air and move on to the next spring etc...


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