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3rdCoastPowerSports 01-30-2012 10:59 PM

Rod bolt torque
 
installed new ARP 8740 7/16 1.75" rod bolts into new forged rods. I tightened both bolts first to 15 ft/lbs then tightened the top bolt to 63 ft/lbs and then the bottom bolt to 63 ft/lbs. I know my torque value is correct im asking about my sequencing, do you see any issues with the way i did this or am i over thinking things again?

bww3588 01-31-2012 12:13 AM

I thought the torque spec for them bolts was 45 ft lbs. Correct me if I'm wrong.

3rdCoastPowerSports 01-31-2012 12:36 AM

45ft/lbs is for the 3/8 8740 bolts. I got the bolt specs from scat

Steve - Race Eng 01-31-2012 01:53 AM

ARP bolt tightening
 
http://arpinstructions.com/index.php

Enter the bolt part number and a pdf instruction spec sheet is presented with the correct method to tighten that particular bolt.

Always check the rod big end for size and out of round when replacing bolts.

kpadlina 02-02-2012 04:50 PM

63 ft lbs sounds REALLY high.....

KCS 02-02-2012 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by kpadlina (Post 15917371)
63 ft lbs sounds REALLY high.....

It's not. 75ft-lbs is typical on a 7/16" 8740 bolt.

3rdCoastPowerSports 02-02-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by KCS (Post 15917504)
It's not. 75ft-lbs is typical on a 7/16" 8740 bolt.

Man i will be honest I am pretty frustrated with ARP... they cant seem to get their shit strait. call them 5 times and ask the same question about torque spec of a certain bolt and you will get 3 or 4 different answers.... I actually went down the street SCAT walked in and chatted with a tech. 63 ft/lbs is/was the correct torque spec for my bolts.
funny you say 75 ft/lbs on a 7/16 8740 because when i called ARP that's what they told me the 7/16 2000 torque out to.
I love ARP but damn they need to be more consistent on their tech advice

RezinTexas 02-03-2012 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by 3rdCoastPowerSports (Post 15917801)
Man i will be honest I am pretty frustrated with ARP... they cant seem to get their shit strait. call them 5 times and ask the same question about torque spec of a certain bolt and you will get 3 or 4 different answers.... I actually went down the street SCAT walked in and chatted with a tech. 63 ft/lbs is/was the correct torque spec for my bolts.
funny you say 75 ft/lbs on a 7/16 8740 because when i called ARP that's what they told me the 7/16 2000 torque out to.
I love ARP but damn they need to be more consistent on their tech advice

My spec sheet that came with my Eagle rods confirms what you say here.

63 for 8740
75 for 2000

both @ 7/16 dia

crainholio 02-03-2012 06:56 AM

Sounds like this is the first time you've torqued them.

Which means you didn't torque them and take measurements of the big-end diameter before installing them. Or at least use Plastigage.

Failure guaranteed.

KCS 02-03-2012 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by RezinTexas (Post 15919489)
My spec sheet that came with my Eagle rods confirms what you say here.

63 for 8740
75 for 2000

both @ 7/16 dia

Yeah, that's right. I was thinking ARP 2000's.

In my experience, the best way is to use a stretch gauge. It's not uncommon to have to increase torque to get the recommended stretch. The ARP 2000 bolts in my stock rods for example had to go to 55ft-lbs.


Originally Posted by crainholio (Post 15919525)
Sounds like this is the first time you've torqued them.

Which means you didn't torque them and take measurements of the big-end diameter before installing them. Or at least use Plastigage.

Failure guaranteed.

The way I read it, he hasn't installed the rods, just the bolts into the rods.

chrisfrost 02-03-2012 12:31 PM

Yes my ARP sportsman rod bolts I brought them to 58lb. ft. before I detected .0002" stretch .

RezinTexas 02-03-2012 01:17 PM

+1000 for a stretch gauge. I'm even going the extra expense of adding a Mitutoyo .0001 dial indicator for it.


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