If you had 500$ to spend on a stock ls1... If you had 500$ to spend on a stock ls1 engine, what would you do to get the most hp? Cai? Td's? |
bbk hears & y pipe- $370 P&P throttle body- $68 frost tune-$150 a lil bit over bugget but there good starting mod's |
tune headers tb all in all it can be found on here cheap from time to time |
How much hp do you think I can gain with 500$? And what size tb should I get? |
a tune alone is probally close to 30... but the hp gain isnt the big deal with a tune... its how it will move the power curve and keep it longer... |
yep the tune is the most inportan part. |
Seriously? I dynod a few years ago and I ran 315hp... Maybe I'll hit 370 with headers and a tune... |
what year car? |
I'd look at nitrous. I bought a kit when my car was 100% bone stock and sprayed 150 shot. |
It's a 98 camaro |
Originally Posted by KCS
(Post 16836749)
I'd look at nitrous. I bought a kit when my car was 100% bone stock and sprayed 150 shot. |
I don't want nos, nos is for fags. |
So I guess I'm ordering headers and a tb next week. How much do you think a shop would charge to install headers? |
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836733)
Seriously? I dynod a few years ago and I ran 315hp... Maybe I'll hit 370 with headers and a tune... |
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836768)
I don't want nos, nos is for fags. |
LOL at nos is for fags. I would start with headers and tune if its can fit in the budget. Long tube headers have always been a proven gainer on these cars. |
Originally Posted by KCS
(Post 16836870)
Well alright then, fuck you too lol |
Can't just do headers, need y pipe too, and exhuast after the y. You'll need to head to the used section here. |
My 99 made 340 rwhp full bolt on's Pacesetter lt's off road y pipe SLP loud moulth cat back, a ported stock tb and a tune |
ebay headers an ory......find a friend or diy port your throttle body...do all the free mods. and get a tune.... |
Headers and an O/R Y, then a tune. You could do it for possibly less than, or right around $500 if you play your cards right and buy cheap stuff. Headers may not last long or hold up great, but you likely see the most gains from them if you can do a tune. |
actually...i say take your time and buy the stuff used on here... i got some used ebay headers and long tubes shipped to my door for 200 bucks...fit awesome too someone already modified the y to fit perfect... damn near everything on my car is used off here...great condition at a fraction of the cost... keep your eyes open on here a deal will come... |
I got my new eBay stainless headers for under 200. I cut off the air tubes. Welded that crap up myself with some stainless wire. Bought a tsp y pipe. That's should put you under 500. The eBay headers dident fit perfect. They still rattle a bit sometimes but ill eventually get under their and clearance them or get tired of them next time their off for more mods and buy some tsp headers. Lol |
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836918)
Lol, it's from a movie. But I don't like nos because I don't want to have to spray just to go fast. I don't even go to the track, I just like peeling out at every light and killing mustangs. I just want 400hp the cheapest way possible n/a. |
Originally Posted by SSmokin99
(Post 16837685)
You're a fag!:) |
You ask for suggestions so here's mine: Save another $100 bucks or so and buy a GMMG catback either new or used. Or get your hands on a Magnaflow catback over at WS6Store because he has them for just a few bucks over $500. Thats just my opinion. I'm more into having nice things rather than a lot of things and thats my suggestion to you. If 400 rwhp is your only goal then buy a nitrous kit. I know you said you don't like it but it's about as realistic as you can get for $500. Good luck with whatever you decide. |
Do people here usually install headers themselves or do they get them installed? Because I could do it I just don't want my car out of commission for more than a weekend. |
^ It's definantly not the most difficult thing to do and if you have any generel mechanical knowledge I'm sure you can handle it. If you have a buddy that can help out too, you could do it in a saturday afternoon and that's assuming you've never done it before. When I installed my Kooks it took me about 5 hours from he time I started until I had the car running and I did it entirely by myself. Although I've probably installed a dozen of them. Getting all the factory stuff out is the hard part (for me anyway). |
Throttle body is worthless in my eyes on a stock motor....and most times people port them they are doing more harm than good... If I were you I would try to score some used headers, ls6 intake, and a cai |
I take that back I would do a y pipe and cat back before the ls6 intake |
Originally Posted by wildcamaro
(Post 16838452)
Throttle body is worthless in my eyes on a stock motor....and most times people port them they are doing more harm than good... |
Headers aren't hard. Pull the coil packs, steering linkage, unbolt the old exhaust and bolt them back up. You can do it in a day no problem. Just make sure the car is really high in the air. You need to able to basically turn the header straight up and slide it in from the bottom. A buddy will come in handy to. It makes it alot easier if someones under the car to help hold the header up to get the bolts in. I'd also do motor mounts while you got the headers off. |
The good news is with these cars being around a while you can pick up good used parts on the cheap. Provided the car doesn't need basic maintenance first you could probably find a lid, headers, exhaust all right in the $500 range. You said stock so I am assuming that you are going from zero modifications. Remember changing out the stock air box on a 4th Gen Fbody was worth an honest 25 Hp. |
If you do do motor mounts make sure you do one side at a time lining it back up would be very hard if both were out I took both mine out when I changed to poly mounts and 400 rwhp that's what there saying I'm pushing with all the mods in my Sig haven't got tuned yet waiting on a few more things so ill let you know after tune |
Literally when I first got my stock 98z28 it could do about 135mph then I put on a cold air intake, lid, and cat back (all SLP) and then it was able to go off the speedo (160+mph)! Def should be able to find all this cheap on the classifieds... If you do get headers hedman sells brand new painted for $250, I didn't even have to remove the steering bc they fit good |
I hit 160 with me and two friends in the car a few months back... Would I get more if I do ls6 intake + long tubes? I heard that you get 15 hp from ls1 to ls6 and then I'll probably get around 10-15 with headers... And what are some "free mods"? You mean like porting the tb? Should I port the ls6 or would it not be worth it? |
Originally Posted by 94Z28-MSTGKLR
(Post 16837862)
You ask for suggestions so here's mine: Save another $100 bucks or so and buy a GMMG catback either new or used. Or get your hands on a Magnaflow catback over at WS6Store because he has them for just a few bucks over $500. Thats just my opinion. I'm more into having nice things rather than a lot of things and thats my suggestion to you. If 400 rwhp is your only goal then buy a nitrous kit. I know you said you don't like it but it's about as realistic as you can get for $500. Good luck with whatever you decide. Also, a little off topic, but does anyone else notice that the f body crowd is getting younger and younger.... |
You guys do realize that the stock fuel cutoff is 155 right? Your not going 160, stock speedo's are way off on these after 100. Fbody crowd isnt getting any younger, we are getting older, as in the last wave of new blood. |
It's because fbody's are cheap and fast. |
if your an A4 then get a converter if all you want to do is ROAST your tires plus you would be faster than what you are now |
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836673)
If you had 500$ to spend on a stock ls1 engine, what would you do to get the most hp? Cai? Td's? |
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836733)
Seriously? I dynod a few years ago and I ran 315hp... Maybe I'll hit 370 with headers and a tune...
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836768)
I don't want nos, nos is for fags.
Originally Posted by ChadDub
(Post 16836918)
Lol, it's from a movie. But I don't like nos because I don't want to have to spray just to go fast. I don't even go to the track, I just like peeling out at every light and killing mustangs. I just want 400hp the cheapest way possible n/a. N2O is the best bang for the buck. You will not get 400hp for $500 with bolt ons. $500 might cover a cam & pushrods, but you wont have anything else to properly install it. You might also want to edit your original post too :cheers: |
I'm starting to think about going for a 3600 and 3.73 gears first before I do anything. Would this be a good idea? What brand gears should I get? |
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