TSP 231/236 vs fms F13
04-12-2004, 02:02 PM
#21
Originally Posted by gomer
Let me come in here to clarify that the 474 rwhp with the FM13 was without the belt on the car. With the belt on and the FM13 it was 460rwhp, the 451rwhp with the 231/237 was with the belt on. I think the two cams are very similair in power. The FM13 has a better idle, but it also costs a good bit more than the TSP cam. I don't think one is any better than the other, they are both good cams. My computer at home has crashed, but when it is back up.. I'll post a graph of the two against each other... both of them with the belts on. The FM13 has a little stronger midrange, but they are both pretty equal at the top.
1fastws6, yes my cam is an FM13 grind with a slightly different twist catered to my needs...
josh
04-12-2004, 02:04 PM
#22
Originally Posted by gomer
Let me come in here to clarify that the 474 rwhp with the FM13 was without the belt on the car. With the belt on and the FM13 it was 460rwhp, the 451rwhp with the 231/237 was with the belt on. I think the two cams are very similair in power. The FM13 has a better idle, but it also costs a good bit more than the TSP cam. I don't think one is any better than the other, they are both good cams. My computer at home has crashed, but when it is back up.. I'll post a graph of the two against each other... both of them with the belts on. The FM13 has a little stronger midrange, but they are both pretty equal at the top.
. Seriously, nothing wrong with the 231/237, just anytime the same or better results can be had with a smaller cam, it is a good deal, IMO. I'd like to see what a FMS cam the size of the 231/237 would do, would make for an interesting comparison IMO.Shawn
04-12-2004, 03:40 PM
#25
!LS1 11 Second Club
Originally Posted by 2hot2handle
i might buy a motor with the tsp 231/237, i want a clean perfect idle..... am i gunna have problems????
The idle on the TSP231/237 is very lopey. It's definately not clean or perfect, though tuning works wonders.
05-31-2004, 01:00 AM
#31
Originally Posted by gomer
Let me come in here to clarify that the 474 rwhp with the FM13 was without the belt on the car. With the belt on and the FM13 it was 460rwhp, the 451rwhp with the 231/237 was with the belt on. I think the two cams are very similair in power. The FM13 has a better idle, but it also costs a good bit more than the TSP cam. I don't think one is any better than the other, they are both good cams. My computer at home has crashed, but when it is back up.. I'll post a graph of the two against each other... both of them with the belts on. The FM13 has a little stronger midrange, but they are both pretty equal at the top.
Boy those guys @ TSP got ya by the nutz
BTW Damian, the lobes Allan uses are NOT as aggressive as an XE R lobe.
05-31-2004, 02:59 PM
#32
TECH Fanatic
FWIW, a TSP 231/237 cam with Patriot Stage 2 LS6 style heads went 10.85 @ 123 this past weekend. 
That is a very strong H/C car. The race weight was 3500lbs with the driver. 
That is a very strong H/C car. The race weight was 3500lbs with the driver.
05-31-2004, 09:12 PM
#33
Yes Gomer picked up 9rwhp peak & power across the midrange... BUT he also added new bigger valve heads, short belt, new ported throttle body, and a electric water pump with the new camshaft.
Still sound impressive to you?
Gomer is now testing the new TSP Torquer Camshaft
233/233 .595/.595 112+2
It offers better driveability than the 231.237 camshaft, & also makes awesome midrange
Jason
Still sound impressive to you?
Gomer is now testing the new TSP Torquer Camshaft
233/233 .595/.595 112+2
It offers better driveability than the 231.237 camshaft, & also makes awesome midrange
Jason
Originally Posted by Cammin BeaSSt
So Gomer, you picked up 9rwhp peak, power across the midrange with a cam with LESS lift, LESS duration @ .50 and ya think the cams are very similar??
Boy those guys @ TSP got ya by the nutz
BTW Damian, the lobes Allan uses are NOT as aggressive as an XE R lobe.
Boy those guys @ TSP got ya by the nutz
BTW Damian, the lobes Allan uses are NOT as aggressive as an XE R lobe.
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Jason
Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
