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PREDATOR-Z 05-19-2013 09:48 PM

Yes it is not a track car
 
Came upon this high mileage 01 C5 and put in another newer LS1 (from a Lumina SS, similar to a GTO).
It will have: (already have these parts)
LTs, X pipe into Borla.
SS3600 Yank TC,

Besides that I'm just going to cam it (for street), so I chose:

218/230 .605/.612 108-1 LSA

Why?
It will sound good,
2000>6200 rpm

Trq should be fun in that light frame.

HCI2000SS 05-19-2013 10:00 PM

Sounds pretty good!

99Bluz28 05-20-2013 03:20 AM

Do you plan on putting it on the dyno...?
It would be interesting to see what the dyno graph looks like.

PREDATOR-Z 05-20-2013 03:28 AM

Eventually, I'll measure its power. What I'm interested in is a muscly rumble with tire frying on demand without spinning it more than stockish rpm range.
I think it will make around 375whp once done. Plenty for street fun.

DACTARI 05-20-2013 06:24 AM

Did you type that intake duration right? 118? You mean 218?

2xLS1 05-20-2013 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by DACTARI (Post 17413342)
Did you type that intake duration right? 118? You mean 218?

No the 118 is the 3/4 version. :)

PREDATOR-Z 05-20-2013 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by 2xLS1 (Post 17413841)
No the 118 is the 3/4 version. :)

LOL...

Yes 218, (typo)

LS1-450 05-20-2013 11:40 AM

Congratulations on the purchase. Keep us posted as it comes along.

PREDATOR-Z 05-20-2013 12:00 PM

Thanks, I just needed something to play with. I have to make up for my stupidity when I sold my Z28.
I might put a Maggie or similar SC on it eventually.

DACTARI 05-20-2013 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z (Post 17413938)
LOL...

Yes 218, (typo)

Lol, I thought maybe you were onto some new voodoo.

DACTARI 05-20-2013 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by 2xLS1 (Post 17413841)
No the 118 is the 3/4 version. :)

haha... multi-thread reference.... mind blown.... too much of a noob to find exploding head emoticon...

DACTARI 05-20-2013 05:08 PM

Sounds like a very smart cam choice for your needs. Make sure to post up a video.

PREDATOR-Z 05-20-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by DACTARI (Post 17414795)
Sounds like a very smart cam choice for your needs. Make sure to post up a video.

Too early to tell if it is smart, but I'm trying to hit all points. Now I hope Isky can cut this one without too much deviance from spec.

JakeFusion 05-21-2013 04:04 PM

I'd like to see how Isky does.

I know Bullet does a good job with custom specs and so does Cam Motion.

garygnu 05-21-2013 04:33 PM

now your will have to change your avatar to Predator-C.

99Bluz28 05-21-2013 04:41 PM

Isky has some pretty aggressive ramp rates on some of their lobes. Those look similar to then Comp Cams LSl lobes.

PREDATOR-Z 05-21-2013 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by 99Bluz28 (Post 17417709)
Isky has some pretty aggressive ramp rates on some of their lobes. Those look similar to then Comp Cams LSl lobes.

These are a tad softer than XER with a variance rate of 50 Vs 49 for XER. Still pretty aggressive but manageable IMO. At the rpm I plan on running they won't be an issue with the stock valves.
I think I will run a set of platinum BTR springs. (Because in the event of a Supercharger).

sweet99ss 05-21-2013 07:13 PM

Did not know lumina ss had an ls1 in it

DadsZ28 05-21-2013 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z (Post 17412854)
Came upon this high mileage 01 C5 and put in another newer LS1 (from a Lumina SS, similar to a GTO).
It will have: (already have these parts)
LTs, X pipe into Borla.
SS3600 Yank TC,

Besides that I'm just going to cam it (for street), so I chose:

218/230 .605/.612 108-1 LSA

Why?
It will sound good,
2000>6200 rpm

Trq should be fun in that light frame.

Hey Predator Z, I have a similar cheater type wide split cam like that only on a 117. It has performed great for me over the years but I always wondered if I left some power on the table by not going to one of the bigger conventional 228/232 type cams. What do you think? Mine was a custom grind by geoff at eps about 5 yrs.ago. Thanx, I always read your cam threads.

mkvamso 05-21-2013 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by DadsZ28 (Post 17418509)
Hey Predator Z, I have a similar cheater type wide split cam like that only on a 117. It has performed great for me over the years but I always wondered if I left some power on the table by not going to one of the bigger conventional 228/232 type cams. What do you think? Mine was a custom grind by geoff at eps about 5 yrs.ago. Thanx, I always read your cam threads.

I would think with an lsa of 117 your torque curve will be much different than his at 108-1
You might be giving up some peak power with your cam compared to a 230s duration but i would imagine average hp and power down low would be equal if not higher. Im no expert by any means, im sure predator z could tell you, seems pretty knowledgable:cheers:


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