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Old 07-09-2013, 03:11 PM
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I finished my build consisting of the following: 6spd car

Trickflow 220 as cast 59cc
Tick SNS stg 2 227/235
LS6 intake
LS6 Oil pump
BTR lifters
42lb injectors
Racetronix Fuel pump w/ hotwire kit
Powerbond UD pulley
Comp trunion upgrade
BBK headers
DMH electric cutout
SLP Lid

Martin was a Huge help, and was top notch customer service for the questions when selecting the right build.

Big 3 Racing in Medina Ohio was an awesome place to get the car tuned. Chuck made sure I was completely satisfied with the results and drivability before leaving.

With all that said my results on a Mustang Dyno came out to.....

447 Hp
395 Tq

Dyno sheet to follow

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What injectors? What "cc" are the heads and what's your SCR and DCR?
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I edited the OP for the injectors and chamber size( I knew I forgot a couple specs)
I will have to run through the calculator again to figure the CR roundabout
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Very similar to my build, with the exception that I have AI Dart/RHS CNC'd heads. I'm hoping for similar numbers.
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Nice power!
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Glad to hear you used Big 3 Racing. My car was tuned at Backstreet, but Chuck is a really nice guy and I may give him a call when my heads/cam go on.
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Originally Posted by Raxus GTO
Glad to hear you used Big 3 Racing. My car was tuned at Backstreet, but Chuck is a really nice guy and I may give him a call when my heads/cam go on.
How far away are you from B3R?Where is Backstreet?
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How far away are you from B3R?Where is Backstreet?
Im about 35 minutes from B3R. Backstreet Performance is in Medina. Its off Smith Rd I believe (not that this helps lol). They are a popular shop with the GTO community.
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Holy crap nice numbers!

I have been looking for dyno results using some of the same components as your build has and love what I am seeing!

I will be running the same cam, SNS S2 110+3, as you are with some other differences. Are you running the standard or the mild lobe?

Tick PRC As Cast 225CC heads w/62CC chambers (Thanks Martin!)
Vengance Ported Fast 92 w/NW 92 TB
TSP 1 7/8 headers

My goal is to make 450 HP and from the looks of things, I hopefully will!

Again, congrads on the build and nice numbers!



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OP, post up the dyno graph when you get a chance. I'm curious to see it.
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Originally Posted by Qfly
Holy crap nice numbers!

I have been looking for dyno results using some of the same components as your build has and love what I am seeing!

I will be running the same cam, SNS S2 110+3, as you are with some other differences. Are you running the standard or the mild lobe?

Tick PRC As Cast 225CC heads w/62CC chambers (Thanks Martin!)
Vengance Ported Fast 92 w/NW 92 TB
TSP 1 7/8 headers

My goal is to make 450 HP and from the looks of things, I hopefully will!

Again, congrads on the build and nice numbers!



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I bet you make 460rwhp/420rwtq on the first pull Dyno Jet of course.
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OP, post up the dyno graph when you get a chance. I'm curious to see it.
Does this make you happy Nate?

Awesome Syris! I'm glad you're happy with the set-up I spec'd out for you! Guys, if you haven't noticed this is pretty much THE cam to have for your 6 speed street cars. Makes huge torque, awesome peak numbers for a smaller duration cam and pulls clean to 6800rpm all day long.

Saturday Night Special is here to stay!
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I bet you make 460rwhp/420rwtq on the first pull Dyno Jet of course.

Martin, your on!

I would be happy with 10 less HP and have it at 450 if I could get 25 more torque and be at 420!

Congrads again Nate and post those dyno sheets!

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by Qfly
Martin, your on!

I would be happy with 10 less HP and have it at 450 if I could get 25 more torque and be at 420!

Congrads again Nate and post those dyno sheets!

Cheers,

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Nate is Rise of The Phoenix just so you know lol.

I don't think you'll have any problems hitting your goals. Those same heads on a stock bottom end 6.0 with 11.5:1 compression made 506/444 with a V.2 Polluter cam and Fast 92 so I don't see why you can't make great power with them as well. That was in a GTO too, which will eat up more power than a F-body or Vette drive-train.
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Originally Posted by Qfly
Holy crap nice numbers!

I have been looking for dyno results using some of the same components as your build has and love what I am seeing!

I will be running the same cam, SNS S2 110+3, as you are with some other differences. Are you running the standard or the mild lobe?

Tick PRC As Cast 225CC heads w/62CC chambers (Thanks Martin!)
Vengance Ported Fast 92 w/NW 92 TB
TSP 1 7/8 headers

My goal is to make 450 HP and from the looks of things, I hopefully will!

Again, congrads on the build and nice numbers!



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Standard Lobe

I'm still waiting on the dyno graph to be sent over.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I bet you make 460rwhp/420rwtq on the first pull Dyno Jet of course.


Does this make you happy Nate? Awesome Syris! I'm glad you're happy with the set-up I spec'd out for you! Guys, if you haven't noticed this is pretty much THE cam to have for your 6 speed street cars. Makes huge torque, awesome peak numbers for a smaller duration cam and pulls clean to 6800rpm all day long.

Saturday Night Special is here to stay!

Yes Martin, this makes me very happy. The main difference between his mod list and mine are the heads; TFS 220cc as cast heads vs. my AI Dart/RHS CNC'd heads. Both are great heads and I doubt there is much difference regarding HP/TQ between the two. Now, I would love to think that my heads will yield more HP/TQ, but who knows. I just can't believe the OP made these numbers with a LS6 intake and on a Mustang Dyno. I'm telling you Martin, this cam is no joke.

Martin, venture to take a guess what I put down on a DynoJet Dyno? Next week is when I'm getting it dyno'd.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Yes Martin, this makes me very happy. The main difference between his mod list and mine are the heads; TFS 220cc as cast heads vs. my AI Dart/RHS CNC'd heads. Both are great heads and I doubt there is much difference regarding HP/TQ between the two. Now, I would love to think that my heads will yield more HP/TQ, but who knows. I just can't believe the OP made these numbers with a LS6 intake and on a Mustang Dyno. I'm telling you Martin, this cam is no joke.

Martin, venture to take a guess what I put down on a DynoJet Dyno? Next week is when I'm getting it dyno'd.
I honestly was expecting lower numbers considering the mustang dyno. It really makes me want to strap it onto a DynoJet to see the numbers on there!
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Originally Posted by Syris
Standard Lobe

I'm still waiting on the dyno graph to be sent over.
I'm excited to see the torque curve. Where did it make peak torque? 4800-4900? Peak horsepower@6300-6400? How far did you pull it to? This cam with aftermarket/CNC stock casting heads will go 7000rpm all day long.
Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Yes Martin, this makes me very happy. The main difference between his mod list and mine are the heads; TFS 220cc as cast heads vs. my AI Dart/RHS CNC'd heads. Both are great heads and I doubt there is much difference regarding HP/TQ between the two. Now, I would love to think that my heads will yield more HP/TQ, but who knows. I just can't believe the OP made these numbers with a LS6 intake and on a Mustang Dyno. I'm telling you Martin, this cam is no joke.

Martin, venture to take a guess what I put down on a DynoJet Dyno? Next week is when I'm getting it dyno'd.
Which is why dynos are nothing more than tuning tools. I've seen this cam make between 365-405rwhp cam-only with nearly identical modifications each time on different dyno jets. It's all in the dyno and 100% faith in a combination's performance potential cannot be placed in dyno numbers. A dyno is a great tool to show you where you were, and where you are now along with dialing in the tune-up. For comparing power numbers to another car with the same mods that was on a different dyno, they are useless.

My conservative guess is you'll put down 430-440rwhp/400-405rwtq. Stroked383HSR made 430/405 on our dyno with his PRC Stg. 2.5 5.3 heads and LS6 intake. If you were on our dyno, and I could at least control that variable as I know how it tends to read....I'd guess 440-450/405-415rwtq.
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I honestly was expecting lower numbers considering the mustang dyno. It really makes me want to strap it onto a DynoJet to see the numbers on there!
Any plans to take it to the track? Great numbers Syris! I hope you're happy!
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I'm excited to see the torque curve. Where did it make peak torque? 4800-4900? Peak horsepower@6300-6400? How far did you pull it to? This cam with aftermarket/CNC stock casting heads will go 7000rpm all day long.


Any plans to take it to the track? Great numbers Syris! I hope you're happy!

It made peak torque just under 5200 rpm
Peak Horsepower was 6150.

We only pulled to 6200 rpm. I know of ppl running it to 7k but for my purposes, I dont see any reason to try spinning it that high. Plus I am still on stock rod bolts.

I do plan on taking it to the track maybe a couple times, but being on the stock rearend will be my limiting factor at this time.
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And updates? Chance at a dyno graph?
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This is good news for me as well...

I will have:

TEA CNC'd 241's with Lunati Springs set to exact specs per Martin.
Martin@Tick Custom Cam (23x/24x .61x/59x 111+3)
1 3/4" Long Tubes, OR-Y, SLP Catback
Lid, 85mm MAF, 85mm TB, LS6 intake, 36lb Injectors, Rewire & new pump.

Thinking April timeframe before i get it together and see results...but so far with everyone else's numbers i don't think i'll be disappointed


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