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Old 10-10-2013, 01:06 PM
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Default .020 out of hole piston/ gm head gaskets = .033 quench

There's 2 ways to reach quench

Thinner head gasket such as .040 cometic head gasket, .007 piston out of the hole = .033 quench

.020 piston out of hole, .053 gm head gasket = .033 quench

My question is does it matter which way you go to achieve it? Cost wise the 2nd way is more expensive since you need to deck the block to reach .020 out of hole..

But is there a performance difference, side effects of doing it the 2nd way?
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Not really. I just wouldn't want the piston coming out of the hole that much.
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Originally Posted by Burken01
There's 2 ways to reach quench

Thinner head gasket such as .040 cometic head gasket, .007 piston out of the hole = .033 quench

.020 piston out of hole, .053 gm head gasket = .033 quench

My question is does it matter which way you go to achieve it? Cost wise the 2nd way is more expensive since you need to deck the block to reach .020 out of hole..

But is there a performance difference, side effects of doing it the 2nd way?
is the piston .020" out or not?
if it is, I suggest not going tighter then .030" quench or you risk kissing the head with the piston... in this case I would run the factory gasket, or a .060" cometic
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It is .020 out, I wanted good quench while being able to run GM ls9 head gaskets..

So i should be right in the area of .031-.033
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Did you have to get the block decked that much? What happened that it needed that much taken off?
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Did you have to get the block decked that much? What happened that it needed that much taken off?
Ha good question, it's an iron 5.3 block that I bored/honed to 3.905.. I wanted the block decked since it was pretty crusty.

My engine guy knew I was using ls9 head gaskets for the build.

Now that I think of it .020 seems high compared to others that's why I figured I'd ask and see what others thought
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I would think .005" would have been enough... with the pistons out of the hole even .010" which is fairly standard of forged stuff, that puts you at .015"... so maybe not that far off.
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Anything under .030 quench and you really do risk the piston coming in contact with the head. So I'd stick with the stock GM gaskets.
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Originally Posted by bozzhawg

Even stock from the factory, the tolerances can vary.

I have seen from .001 to .025. stock and hi-po builds.

The key question is how did you mesure this?

I find TDC. Then once its at its highest point, push down on one side of the piston and measure the other side with a dial caliper. Then vise versa the other side of the piston. Take the 2 numbers and add them, then divide by 2. This will give you the avg. and ballpark.

The most crucial thing is that you are simulating the rocking motion of the piston in the bore.

How did you come to the conclusion that you were .020 out of the hole? Is this after measuring both sides of the piston?
My engine builder did all this, I'll take a look at the engine spec sheet when I get home..
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Anything under .030 quench and you really do risk the piston coming in contact with the head. So I'd stick with the stock GM gaskets.
Yes I don't want that, with the turbo and camshaft I have I was planning on shifting at 6600-6800 range..
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I may be wrong, if so someone correct me, but for a turbo motor I thought one would want more quench then less. For an all motor car, less quench in the area you are running it, is good.
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Originally Posted by 3rdGenLS
I may be wrong, if so someone correct me, but for a turbo motor I thought one would want more quench then less. For an all motor car, less quench in the area you are running it, is good.
Yes I'd like to hear from some turbo guys about this
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You should be fine, you could run a bigger bore LS9 gasket. I think they are .055 thick. Mine are out of the hole about .010 to .012.

Oops, sorry you are running the LS9's

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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
You should be fine, you could run a bigger bore LS9 gasket. I think they are .055 thick. Mine are out of the hole about .010 to .012.

Oops, sorry you are running the LS9's
.055?

I keep seeing .051 and even .053

Either way I'm between .031-.035 then, which is cutting it close..

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Not sure about the LS1 but My LM7's factory pistons were out of the hole .015" so when I bought aftermarket slugs n They were flush with the blocks deck I was a little surprised.
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Originally Posted by chrisfrost
Not sure about the LS1 but My LM7's factory pistons were out of the hole .015" so when I bought aftermarket slugs n They were flush with the blocks deck I was a little surprised.
What rods did you use?

Because if iron 5.3's pistons come out of the hole more than ls1's then that might explain why mine are out so much.

Either way I made up the gap running GM head gaskets



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